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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:24 PM
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29,000,000 No Shows on Election Day
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young but wise Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:27 PM
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1. Shameful.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:42 PM
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6. I disagree. It's a voters prerogative.
The problem is democrats misdiagnosing the problem. They need to get those people to vote, and more compromise isn't the cure.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:28 PM
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2. 10,000,000 more no-shows than the Repukes made the difference
Apathy, what America lives on.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:50 PM
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14. Apathy is usually the price you pay for failing to draw the bright lines. nt
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:33 PM
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21. Apathy is the price we pay for not ringing doorbells to splain things to folk
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 03:46 AM
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36. total bullshit.
No one should be explaining anything to anyone. If people are turned off, it's for a reason. Find the reason and correct it.
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:31 PM
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3. The PCA said in England if you dodn't vote you pay a fine...
sounds like a good idea to me.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:48 PM
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12. And they used to have mandatory church attendance too.
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Dash87 Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:34 PM
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4. I hope those people aren't complaining about the results.
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 12:35 PM by Dash87
:(

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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:48 PM
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11. This is the result of their persistent compliant.
They won't like the answer they get there either. OTOH, this is another significant step toward the cataclysm.


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indy legend Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:38 PM
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5. maybe the fact that this administration has been a no show
for the people who worked their ass off for them and donated that $50,$100 or $500 they didn't really have the last three years had a little something to do with that. Just keep reaching across that isle. I'm sure majority speaker orange fuck can't wait to work with you mr. president. While you continue to reach across the isle I'm reaching for a progressive fighter to support in 2012. After all I'm not important to you. I'm just a "retarded" liberal progressive member of the professional left. I'll dare me to expect the people I support to support me.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:43 PM
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7. yawn
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indy legend Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:47 PM
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10. You put a lot of thought in that post didn't you?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 02:57 AM
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35. way to rally the troops. your yawn is indicative of what caused the yawning chasm of 29 million
Edited on Sat Nov-06-10 02:59 AM by Hannah Bell
missing voters; 10 million more missing than the gop had.

heckuva job.

Obama's No-Shows: 29 Million
November 03, 2010 4:32 PM

One way to look at yesterday’s election is to say that about 29 million Obama voters from 2008 simply didn’t show up this time around.

Here’s how: Current estimate is that 90 million people voted. Exit poll says 45 percent were Obama voters in 2008. That’s 40.5 million voters.

In 2008, Obama won 69.5 million votes. So about 29 million Obama voters did not show up in 2010.

Exit poll also says 45 percent of people who voted yesterday were McCain voters in 2008, again 40.5 million. That, vs. his nearly 60 million in 2008, means about 19.5 million McCain voters did not show up.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenumbers/2010/11/obamas-no-shows-29-million.html
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:46 PM
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9. +1 and VERY well said
Funny how people just love to shoot down this even when reality has smacked them in the face.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:54 PM
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15. Right, cause the reality of 2000-2008 didn't smack them in the face enough.
The last two years may have been less than stellar, but they sure the hell beat more wars and higher unemployment.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:59 PM
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18. That's true but here's the rub:
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 01:00 PM by TornadoTN
For the most part, people had jobs and the economy was functional during the Bush years. Yes, he destroyed the economy by his policy actions and as a result people lost jobs and are now complaining about it. We know the truth and we know why it happened, but the average American voter probably doesn't know the intricacies like us political junkies. All they know is that in 2000-whatever, they had a job and now it's gone. They are angry and they see that things haven't changed under a President who promised "CHANGE". The Republicans seized on that and here we are.

No matter the truth that lies behind each of the reasons why people might list for voting GOP again, people just don't see that because the messaging was allowed to be controlled by the GOP and we did nothing to stop it either by way of actually presenting effective legislation and fighting for it or by controlling the messaging.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:49 PM
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13. So, you're okay with putting the people that gave us this shit sandwich back in charge?
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 12:54 PM by Dawgs
Cause that's exactly what it sounds like.

Maybe another war and millions of job losses will snap you out of it.
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indy legend Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 01:01 PM
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19. No i am not but I'm getting real fucking tired of every time I expect
someone I have supported to actually stand up and fight for me and us that when they loose the first thing they do is throw me under the bus and that it's my fucking fault. If this administration wants to find the person at fault for this result all they have to do is look in the nearest God damn mirror. I did vote Tuesday, straight dem. and even though I have been disgusted by the weakness and spinelessness of this administration, I still donated, I still worked the phones,I still knocked on doors, yet I'm still being told I'm the problem.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:25 AM
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30. No, he's OK with actually learning something from this election.
The real question is: why aren't you?
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:57 PM
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17. Bullshit!! It means the voters weren't paying attention to what Obama accomplished.
And did it despite the mess left to him by Bush. The Republicans and the media drowned out the Democrats about the truth and likely that the Democrats weren't loud enough.

And I do agree that it is pointless to reach across the aisle with this group of Republicans. But we also had a problem with Blue Dogs and New Democrats that were blocking legislation. Blue Dogs for the most part are stupid animals. And they paid the price this election with more than half of their caucus decimated. Now we need to find real Democrats that understand that winning requires behaving like Democrats instead of pretending to be one.

In Indiana, we had a Blue Dog Senator, Evan Bayh decide not to run for the Senate again. They selected Brad Ellsworth another Blue Dog who was the Representative in the 8th District to run in his spot. And they had Van Haaften, a State Representative run for Ellsworth's US House seat. He probably would had been another Blue Dog if he had won. So we lost both the US Senate and US House 8 to Republicans. And it looks like 30 votes is keeping the State House seat in Democratic hands unless a recount is initiated and shows otherwise.
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:11 PM
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20. It's not the voters paying attention that's the problem
Because the low-information voter also known as an "independent" will never pay attention. And the youth vote expects results, but doesn't understand how to find out about them on their own.

It's up to the White House's media strategy to get the accomplishments in front of those people. And the media strategy for the last two years has been as abysmal as the legislative strategy.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:29 AM
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31. No, it means Obama's political strategy failed.
It's that simple. If you fail politically, it's because you employed a failed political strategy.

Say all you want about stupid voters, but they weren't any stupider this time around than they've been in the last 10 years. The media wasn't any more negligent. The Repukes weren't any more nasty and hateful.

We all saw this coming and we begged Obama to prepare for it. Instead we got reaches across the aisle and kumbayas. The voters in this country don't reward that kind of weakness.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:35 PM
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23. If you are going to talk like that, you deserve Republicans
Enjoy.
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indy legend Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:51 PM
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27. with all this giving in before the fight even begins we already have republicans
weather there's a D or an R after their name, but that's right. attack the people who actually want our side to work for US. that's bound to energize us and make us work even harder. You keep craping on the people who work hard for change then expect it to at least be fought for and you loose them too. then who's gonna fight with you? you can enjoy the new republican utopia with me cause there won't be a dimes worth of difference between them. If you expect nothing it should be clear by now you get nothing. You accept this spineless crap you get crap.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:45 PM
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8. after watching his reaction, i wish i had joined them
but i voted party line as always.. i feel bad for doing that this year for some reason?
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:54 PM
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16. Same story in Texas
Dems got shellacked, the lege is now 2/3 Republican. Dem leaders are admitting their vote mobilization isn't worth spit.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:35 PM
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22. Tough for them.
No one cares what they think.
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:38 PM
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24. These 29 million were expecting HCR that was real
So was I expecting something great. Voted anyway.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:39 PM
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25. I think we are about to be trickled down upon again
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:41 PM
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26. And there are 15,000,000 unemployed.
Officially.
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:53 PM
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28. Thats what happens when you shit on a large portion of your party.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 10:22 PM
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29. +1
You're suppose to dance wit them what brung ya, not shit on them.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 04:12 AM
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38. yep
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:46 AM
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32. Fuck all of them. They only have themselves to blame.
They consciously made a choice to let the Republicans win because they couldn't bother to get up off their asses.

Their decision not to vote is all on them.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:59 AM
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33. Hope they are enjoying the rerun episodes of the Mitch + John show. n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:09 AM
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34. Well at least, this means less folks that have shit to say
that needs consideration.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 04:11 AM
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37. Yep. And I'm one of them.
I have no problem admitting it. No one earned my fucking vote.
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