Maddow, O'Donnell, and Olbermann need to get real..

[Green_Lantern]

They're really in denial about the GOPs election wins.

They are pretending this won't give the Repugs much power, when we've seen what they've done in the Senate before this when they didn't have the house and will have even more leeway to use the filibuster.

Sure Angle and O'Donnell lost but Paul and Rubio are just as bad and now we have a GOP who think the electorate likes what they're doing.

[HereSince1628]

1. I would add Ron Johnson elected in WI to that list.

There are now 3 bona fide tea-partiers to be loosed onto the senate floor.

[Tansy_Gold]

2. Excellent point. n/t

[T Wolf]

3. PA's Toomey as well. In some ways, he is crazier than Santorum. nt

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[HereSince1628]

10. Well, he might be a kool-aider but his agenda is the tea-baggers

I will never be satisfied with him, now I have a rino and corpo-dem for senators.

[no limit]

4. You are not allowed to disagree with Olbermann. Watch out for that bus

it's crowded under there.

[Ozymanithrax]

8. If we disagree with Olberman, do we get thrown under the same bus...

as Stewart and Colbert?

[no limit]

13. Yup. same exact bus

[SoCalDem]

6. Rubio is dangerous

I can see him being very interested in "higher office"..Imagine him running with a black female vp candidate....or perhaps the SC governor Healy

[stopbush]

7. No, they have a very good point, because the House is the lower chamber of Congress.

Look, the Pelosi House passed over 400 bills that went nowhere because the Senate wouldn't even bother taking them up due to the threat of a filibuster. Anything that comes thru the R House has to make it through a D-controlled Senate AND be able to get past a filibuster. That means that the Senate Rs will need the support of at least 14 or so D Senators to pass any legislation, and that assumes that Reid will even allow legislation to come to the floor of the Senate.

And IF anything passes the Senate, it still has to get by Obama's veto, where it must then muster a 2/3 majority in BOTH Houses. That translates to needing 288 votes in the House to override an Obama veto. Guess what? Less than 10% of presidential vetoes have ever been overridden. The R House would need 49 D Reps to vote with them to override a veto. Ain't gonna happen.

It's gridlock, not power.

[Green_Lantern]

12. I'm not talking about power in passing legislation but

The power they have to stop legislation.

Another worry is losing these states Obama carried in 2008: Florida, Indiana, Illinois, Ohio, etc.

[madrchsod]

9. the best thing i heard about randie paul.....

paraphrasing....rand and his staff will be eating alone.

[Blue_In_AK]

11. The electorate is fickle.

They may like Rand Paul and Marco Rubio right now, but give them a year or two in office, and the people who voted for them may have a totally different opinion about their effectiveness. Look what happened to President Obama.

[Green_Lantern]

14. they don't control the Senate, so they can just stop up

Important legislation and blame Dems.

[PRETZEL]

15. I agree,

two junior senators.

They'll have their little niches back home but for the most part they'll be relegated to the back of the bus once the sessions start and Mitch McConnell starts dictating who goes to what talking head show.

[foxfeet]

17. True, but the electorate is also flailing, in a panicky search for anything to hang onto.

Like a drowning person, they will grab anything that promises "safety", no matter how unrealistic.

[Winterblues]

16. Maybe you haven't been paying attention to them

Rachel, anyway, said plain out there will be nothing accomplished in the next two years.. They have virtually zero incentive to allow anything to pass.. Just saying no or better yet HELL NO has proved to be a very successful political strategy for them especially since they really could care less about America or it's people, so why should they change and start trying to legislate? I doubt Obama will have to cast a single veto..

[Green_Lantern]

18. that was Rachel Maddow before the election when she

Thought being the party of hell no would keep the GOP from winning the house or gaining so much in the Senate.

[Winterblues]

19. That was Rachel last night..

:shrug:

[jeff47]

20. No, that would be Rachel last night (nt)