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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:44 PM
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SF now in "death watch" mode for Nancy Pelosi
San Francisco is an ongoing fix for political junkies when nothing is going on. Now a confluence of events has turned it into a political storm. Topping that list is the uncertain future of Nancy Pelosi. History shows us that the leader of the recently-ousted party usually either chooses not to seek another term or resign at some point in the new term. Everyone remotely interested in politics here to see what she does and the vultures are circling to see who succeeds her. Personally, I think the top names to look for are State Senator Mark Leno and Assemplyman Tom Ammiano. Ammiano would probably clear the field, but he's no spring chicken (and SF to DC is a LONG haul) and, with a new Democratic governor, he may see an opportunity to get a lot accomplished in Sacramento. Leno, on the other hand, may very well be interested. But considering the partisan makeup of District 8 and the advantages of incumbency, it would be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and I expect to see a lot of names on the ballot, whether it be in 2011 or 2012.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:44 PM
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1. Weather the storm.
It makes the victory that much more sweet.
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John Commonsense Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 07:54 PM
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16. Why? They failed to deliver.

Impeachment should never have been off the table.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:13 PM
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19. I agree spending the political capital on things like health care was a good idea.
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 08:14 PM by RandomThoughts
However they traded away much of the health care bill to keep control in the private sector corporate structure.

And I argued for years that for justice to be complete people that do wrong should be held to account in proportion to the wrong they did, and the damage it causes.

Many of them think people have no free will so do not want to prosecute any of what they call part of a certain group. Or they think prison is only for the lower classes, there are a few reasons for those thoughts.

I agree that public trials right out of the gates would be bad, but if justice led to those decisions by showing what choices were made, and who people chose to follow those years led to information of crimes, then they should be prosecuted, if not done for targeted political justice, but to establish law and remove anarchy.

Although I really don't blame Nancy for that, and think she is one of the better members of the house, and understand it was a political thought from a larger context that drove that decision, even if I think it was wrong, and if it creates more problems.

It comes down to what kind of world you want to live in.

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John Commonsense Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:50 PM
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20. I want to live in a world where those elected (D)

act in the best interests of the electorate.

Nancy and Harry didn't deliver all that we needed.

We know that we won't get that by playing nice with the Repubbies so we should never play nice with them at all.
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:45 PM
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2. If I can't have Dean, I'd settle for Pelosi as chair of DNC.....eom
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:46 PM
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3. Stick around Nancy, you'll get your job back in two years...nt
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:46 PM
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4. Maybe she'll retire and spend her days setting her lovely tables at home
Sucking on the lemon of thinking about whether she should have set the House table differently.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:49 PM
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5. That's news to me n/t
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:51 PM
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6. I think Leno would be a great choice
never been that impressed with Ammiano

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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:55 PM
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7. I think she should stay in Congress
if we can win, she'll be resurrected and won't the fundies have a complete freak over that.
And over the next two years, she can quote back to the GOP what they had previously said about everything.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:58 PM
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8. Yeah, unrec
Would be a travesty for Pelosi to resign after presiding over a session that passed 400 pieces of legislation. Why should she lose her job because the WH and Senate couldn't produce enough?
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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:08 PM
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9. I didn't say she SHOULD
But leaders tend to decide to step down after a big loss. And trust me, the topic came up this afternoon and a post-election discussion that was held Dowtown.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:15 PM
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11. Who was involved in the discussion?
Is there a link yet?
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:22 PM
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14. Good. Because no way in hell she should. The Senate and WH fail to produce and Pelosi steps down?
Awww, hell no!
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:15 PM
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10. My "Democratic" dad thinks she should resign now
simply because she'll no longer be the Speaker of the House.

I was all like :wtf:

Why should she resign and/or refuse to seek another term? She's been a pretty good leader.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:20 PM
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12. ABC reported that there's some buzz about her going for the Minority Leader spot. n/t
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:22 PM
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13. what history shows us...link? nt
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:36 PM
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15. I'm not big into vulture watches...
I say we let her decide.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 07:59 PM
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17. Why the rush?
She's only lost the Speaker's position. She's still an effective and influential Congress member.

Pelosi is not the USUAL former Speaker.
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dimbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:03 PM
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18. Perfectly reasonable to retire full of honors at 70.
House of Representatives is no picnic. This part of the world has plenty of smart liberals to send to Washington.
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