You want to know why the Democrats lost???

[XemaSab]

The democrats lost because people are PISSED.

We're pissed about 10% unemployment, we're pissed about housing, we're pissed about banks, we're pissed about faux-compromise that only serves to sell out our values, we're pissed about the media, we're pissed about big coal and big oil, we're pissed about outsourcing, we're pissed about personal debt, we're pissed about health care, we're pissed about the collapse of the American city, we're pissed that the democrats seem to have given up on rural areas, we're pissed about the wars, we're pissed about the gay rights bread-and-circus, we're pissed about the abortion bread-and-circus, we're pissed about the gun bread-and-circus, we're pissed about students graduating with more debt than they will ever be able to pay off because there are no jobs, we're pissed about the imminent collapse of social security, we're pissed about the tax-cut shell game, we're pissed about the collapse of manufacturing, we're pissed about Osama bin Laden, we're pissed about the Goddamn Bush administration making out like Goddamn bandits, and finally we're pissed about the national debt.

[tabatha]

1. Yes, but the people who are now in

are going to make that all worse.

[FrenchieCat]

2. The Democrats lost because the News media decided they would

about two years ago. Everything else is bullshit.

[Raster]

7. No it isn't. Yes, the news media was not our friend, but neither was the Democratic party,

which did it's damnedest to stand for NOTHING.

[Hannah Bell]

11. baloney. i can see for myself the empty houses on my street & the increased number

of people i know having financial problems. i can see our empty mall, the various small businesses going under, the empty storefronts. i can see layoffs at our one remaining large private industry, i can see the want ads with only three jobs listed. i can see the dinner line at our homeless shelter & the increased business at goodwill. i can see that our business district is now mostly charity thrift stores.

jesus christ.

you're completely delusional if you think it's all about "the media" bad-mouthing obama.

[Fire1]

18. No it certainly is NOT all about the media. MOST of it

comes from the electorates arrogance of entitlement AND blaming Obama instead of the true source of discontent, republican obstruction.

[Mimosa]

23. Hannah, it's amazing how many empty developments there are even in ATL

And James Carville's 'It's the economy, stupid' has always been true.

I guess many younger people stayed home this election (they seldom turn out for midterms anyway) because they figured their votes would not change anything. The change they voted for in 2008 wasn't apparent to them. The economy still stinks, the wars continue, and health insurance is more expensive!

[BeFree]

30. Yep

It is not the Dems fault that all those houses are sitting vacant.

Once again, we have been set up as the fall guys for the bush error.

And people, even here are buying into the scheme. wtf?

[alanquatermass]

35. Well, MY newspaper (L.A. Times) endorsed the Democratic candidates...

-- thank God -- and I'm pretty sure the NY Times came out for the Democrats, too, as they always do, and so did the major Chicago papers.

To which I say: Thank Fucking God!!!

The Rethugs can have Talk Radio and be welcome to it. Who gives a shit. WE'VE got the major newspapers (except the Wall Street Journal)... we've got the Associated Press, the major TV networks (with the exception of FOX, of course), not to mention NPR (just ask Juan Williams, LOL!!!), and Time and Newsweek.

And the day we lose the MSM is the day we are truly fucked.

[jkirch]

36. Yes. I think this is correct.

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[XemaSab]

4. Exactly

:toast:

[JI7]

5. if you are pissed about big coal why did Joe Manchin win

[Liberal Left]

6. They kissed the Republicans' rear ends

The people voted Democrat in the hopes that Democrats would take office.

[Larkspur]

9. And it looks like Obama wants to continue that kind of kissing

just add Wall Street to the list of butts he wants to kiss.

[Larkspur]

8. Obama proved that the New Democrat model for winning reelection

sucks. You all noticed that Rahm Emmanuel left Washington D.C. BEFORE the Nov. 2 election. Rahm the Rat knew that Obama's White House was a sinking ship and he bailed on Obama so he wouldn't be around to get the blame.

[Raster]

10. Oh absolutely. The "Chicago model" of new Democratic politics leaves much to be desired.

Rahm shot his mouth off one too many times, and in the end, his butt could not cash the checks his mouth was writing.

on edit: I've update to put quotes around "Chicago model". It's:sarcasm:

[KharmaTrain]

12. There's A Chicago Model?

Love to see a source for that. I'm a lifelong Chicagoan...this town has always been politics as usual. Nothing new about that and how it became "the city that works". It was built on an alliance between city, unions and large corporates that rose from the blood of the Haymarket Street workers to the 1937 Inland steel strike and helped turn the city into an economic power and made sure the some of the spoils were "trickled" down (through the unions) to the workers who became the middle class. If this is the wrong way to go, I'd love to find a better one.

Rahm has never been a "Chicago politician"...more faux claptrap. He never was in the city council or even worked for any city office. That's a big reason many party regulars are lukewarm about his wanting to be mayor. Overall, Rahm was just one of many people and poor moves this administration has made that led to last Tuesday's results.

[Catherina]

13. Good list. + pissed about the homeless and the hungry. Rec'd n/t

[Chulanowa]

14. And the pissed voters succeeded in making all of that stuff WORSE

Bravo, dumbfucks, bra-vo!

[liberalla]

15. Exactly. Oh boy - and they think they're mad now?

Get ready for that list to get longer.

x(

[Control-Z]

16. Did you edit the anim?

Nice loop.

[tavalon]

17. Yep, and we're so pissed

many of us just pissed on ourselves.

[B Calm]

19. Social Security hasn't seen a raise in two years and old people vote.

[ScreamingMeemie]

20. Just to add...old people aren't the only ones who receive SS benefits.

Single parents with death benefits, raising children on those benefits, have a hard time when costs go up and checks don't cover.

[B Calm]

21. But, the vast majority of them are old farts who do vote.

[ScreamingMeemie]

22. "Old Fart" is a ridiculous term. Those who receive benefits cross a

wide range of ages, some who vote...and some who don't.

[Hannah Bell]

25. i think you're confusing social security with ssi, supplemental security income.

single parents receive ssi, not ss.

ssi is a welfare-type program funded from general tax collections, not from social security (fica) taxes.

the only time a single parent raising a child receives ss benefits is if they're the dependent spouse/child of a dead/disabled worker eligible for ss.

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10084.html

[ScreamingMeemie]

27. No I'm not. That is what I am talking about. Not confused. I draw it.

But...those benefits are also not increasing this year.

SS death benefits are not welfare. It is an early disbursement of social security benefits, as paid into by a deceased parent.


Thank you.

Edited for typing SSI instead of SS death benefits.

[Hannah Bell]

28. no, SSI has nothing to do with social security except that it's administered by the social security

administration. you're mistaken.

Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is a Federal income supplement program funded by general tax revenues (not Social Security taxes):

It is designed to help aged, blind, and disabled people, who have little or no income; and It provides cash to meet basic needs for food, clothing, and shelter.

http://www.ssa.gov/ssi/


Supplemental Security Income (or SSI) is a United States government program that provides stipends to low-income persons who are either aged (65 or older), blind, or disabled.

Although administered by the Social Security Administration, SSI is funded from the U.S. Treasury general funds, not the Social Security trust fund.

SSI was created in 1974 to replace federal-state adult assistance programs that served the same purpose. The restructuring of these programs was intended to standardize the eligibility requirements and level of benefits. The new federal program was incorporated into Title XVI (Title 16) of the Social Security Act. Today the program provides benefits to 7.8 million Americans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supplemental_Security_Income


SSI *is* a welfare program, in the sense that there is no requirement of having paid into the system to collect benefits -- unlike social security.

early disbursement of social security from a deceased parent = social security survivors' benefits, not SSI.

http://www.ssa.gov/ww&os2.htm

[ScreamingMeemie]

31. Please refer to my original post about widowed parents who draw

SS death benefits.


"Single parents with death benefits, raising children on those benefits, have a hard time when costs go up and checks don't cover."

As evidenced by the widows/widowers I speak with in support groups, they were not thrilled.

[Hannah Bell]

32. I said: SSI *isn't* Social Security, & Social Security Survivors' benefits *aren't* SSI.

I said, you're confused about the terms.

And you were. Then you edited your post.


"Edited for typing SSI instead of SS death benefits."

Thank you for acknowledging the edit.

[Hannah Bell]

29. dupe

[struggle4progress]

24. This is useless as analysis

[XemaSab]

33. Thanks

:hi:

[gulliver]

26. You know why the bull always gets killed?

Because it's pissed.

[Johonny]

34. they're so pissed they ignored all the things the last congress did to solve those issues

their solutions might not have been liberals enough for some tastes, they might not have come fast enough for some taste, but they happened. Nothing more will happen now. These issue have never been addressed by a mixed party congress. I think FDR would of been a 1 term president if people had modern attention spans and patience. I am frankly amazed more and more about my grandparents and the people that lived through the great depression.

[krabigirl]

37. Yes, people just pull the lever for D or R whenever they are pissed at the party in power

However, Obama needs to address the fucking wars, sorry.

[CommonSensePLZ]

38. Seems to me moderates and voters..

Participating voters kicked out moderate dems and took the rest of us with them, but if voter turnout had been higher the dems would've won across the board.