It's the friggin war..neverending, corrupt and bankrupting us

[xiamiam]

that is where a huge part of the disillusionment comes in..especially for young people. Oh yes there are those who will say that Obama ran on that message of increasing troops in Afghanistan..but drones in Pakistan?..its stupid and many of us are not..

I prefer wisdom from my leaders..the spending and support on never ending war is a fools' folly

[CountAllVotes]

1. yep that is it alright

All of these other piss poor excuses for the poor economy don't address the real cause and that is: WARS WITHOUT END STUPID! :dunce:

:kick: & recommend.

[DirkGently]

2. These wars are the epitome of how the rich are sucking the life from working and middle class people

[Autumn]

3. Big old elephant, shitting all over the room

and no one will fucking mention it.

[xiamiam]

4. embarrassing ..i've never met one person who thought the continuation of these wars

is a good idea..not one...yet here we are.a decade later spending billions upon billions of dollars...shameful

[Autumn]

7. Worse than shameful, it's criminal. The

only ones that support them are our "leaders" and I use the term loosely.

[chill_wind]

5. Yes. And that understanding and message

needs to intensify immensely. 10 years of disgracing, corrupting and hemorrhaging this country to death.

The Cost of War: http://nationalpriorities.org/tools/tradeoffs/

[xiamiam]

6. interesting link..1,1 trillion on both wars thus far..nt

[GSLevel9]

9. damn... that's a lot of school lunches, commuter trains and even a handful of nuclear power plants.

[chill_wind]

12. Tradeoffs just for FY2011 Afghanistan-- are just staggering

Taxpayers in The United States will pay $119.4 billion for proposed Afghanistan war spending for FY2011. For the same amount of money, the following could be provided:

* 1.8 million Elementary School Teachers for One Year OR
* 2.1 million Firefighters for One Year OR
* 15.7 million Head Start Slots for Children for One Year OR
* 27.0 million Households with Renewable Electricity - Solar Photovoltaic for One Year OR
* 72.1 million Households with Renewable Electricity-Wind Power for One Year OR
* 15.3 million Military Veterans Receiving VA Medical Care for One Year OR
* 1.8 million Police or Sheriff's Patrol Officers for One Year OR
* 15.1 million Scholarships for University Students for One Year OR
* 21.5 million Students receiving Pell Grants of $5550

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Numbers for Iraq + Afghanistan:

http://nationalpriorities.org/en/tools/tradeoffs/state/US/program/11/tradeoff/0

The old database had low-income healthcare figures and housing in it. It looks like they are planning to update the healthcare figures.

[GSLevel9]

8. absolutely.

just because the CIC is wearing OUR jersey doesn't make it OK now.

There should be 5000 highly trained spec-ops there and that's it, maybe some drones. There IS an enemy there but having a standing army there won't defeat them.

And btw, WE CAN'T AFFORD IT!!!!!!!!!

[Gregorian]

10. Our economy depends on war. We can't stop.

Also, the economy depends on the environmental resources we plunder. So raping of the planet also will not stop.

Sorry for the bad news. When world population drops significantly, we may begin to see a slowing of the destruction.

[xiamiam]

11. who says the economy depends on war? its bs..

look what a great job its done for the economy