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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:35 PM
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Sigh-ok,DUers..anyone want to help me respond to this editorial on immigration?
I need solid facts.Thanks in advance...brain is on the fritz

http://www.thedailylight.com/articles/2010/11/05/opinion/doc4cd436afbe808345267909.txt

LETTER: ‘Biggest outrage’
Published: Friday, November 5, 2010 12:17 PM CDT
To the Editor,

A good friend of mine sent me a video of something that is almost too far beyond what any American could ever guess imaginable for an American president to do to America! Eleven foreign countries are being allowed by the 9th Circuit Court to weigh in on the constitutionality of the immigration bill passed by the lawmakers of Arizona! This is truly outrageous to the point of making my blood boil! Nations that have cruel treatment of anyone who illegally enters their own sovereign national territory have the audacity to tell American federal judges whether the laws of one of our states is constitutional! And,worse than that, they HAVE BEEN INVITED TO DO THIS BY U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL ERIC HOLDER AND BY THE ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL JUDGES WHO SIT ON THIS EXTREME AND TREASONOUS FEDERAL COURT!

May God have mercy on our future and reverse this hideous nightmare is my prayer. It is the most anti-constitutional outrage in American history.

Those who hate Tea Party Americans love this kind of treason by liberal federal judges. One of the things that the new Congress should do is cast some well-publicized votes which places every single member of the U.S. House and the U.S. Senate on record regarding the rule of law. It might be true that President Obama’s anti-constitutional health care bill cannot be overturned at the present time. But, the Congress can and should force its members to vote publicly on the following questions:

(1) Is it constitutionally sound for any other nation to help the federal government undermine the laws of a state of the United States of America?;

(2) Is it constitutionally sound for American citizens to be punished by the federal government for failing to purchase a medical policy?;

(3) Is it constitutionally sound for the Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke to be allowed to manage billions of taxpayer dollars with absolutely no oversight, no independent audit, and no way for the American people to see how this money is spent?

Those who hate Tea Party Americans say that they want “bipartisanship.” Removing the iron veil of secrecy protecting the Fed from an independent audit, making it illegal for federal judges to let foreigners decide whether Arizona’s laws are constitutional, and removing the vulgar federal mandate in the health care bill would go along way toward encouraging national unity by promoting openness in our government and making it clear that we are not going to sell our national sovereignty!

Sincerely and God bless the new Congress.

Paul Richard Strange Sr.,

Waxahachie

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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:39 PM
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1. May Goddess have mercy on us!
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 12:41 PM by HillbillyBob
YOu can't tell the teabaggies anything they just start nanannanannan like a five year old. I know I have tried to talk to them.
I just deactivated my fb account. I can't take the idiocy and I have my own stuff to deal with. I refuse to deal with theirs, maybe after they sink the country into and even bigger mess someone will listen, but I doubt it.
On edit.
The real treason is being committed by the baggies with aid and abet by corpses.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:40 PM
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2. and...sigh..you can add it to this
http://www.thedailylight.com/articles/2010/11/05/opinion/doc4cd416e35b8eb482762909.txt

'Barton statement on election'
Published: Friday, November 5, 2010 10:00 AM CDT
arton statement on election

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Congressman Joe Barton was humbled Tuesday night after being re-elected to his 14th term in U.S. House of Representatives and he vowed to continue fighting for the conservative values that he shares with his constituents.

“I want to thank the people of the 6th District for re-electing me. It is a privilege that I don’t take lightly and I intended to make the next two years the most productive of my congressional career,” said Rep. Barton. “I’m excited to be part of a new Conservative majority that is bringing common sense back to Washington.

“But the celebration won’t last long. I know voters put Republicans back in the majority to get things done. After holding town hall meetings and attending civic gatherings across the 6th District and campaigning for candidates across the country, it is clear people are worried about the federal government’s overreach into their private lives. Most told me their top priority for a new conservative majority is simple – Repeal ObamaCare.

“The individual mandate, the employee mandate, the abortion funding, the tangle of outsider/insider councils like the comparative effectiveness board, and the effective nationalization of health care under grants of authority to the Department of Health and Human Services — all that has to go,” said Rep. Barton. “Our repeal efforts will also be accompanied by a simultaneous barrage of oversight hearings into the grisly details of how the administration staged in this rate-raising, job-killing frenzy.”

Rep. Barton says the new Republican Majority will also start reducing the federal budget to reign in exploding spending and deficits. Earlier this year the Congressman introduced the STRONG Budget Act, which would cut federal spending across the board – excluding earned entitlements. While it was ignored under Democrats’ rule, he hopes that legislation will now be passed.

“We’ve also got to end the president’s broader spending extravaganza, and a fine place to start is through reforming the entitlement spending that now amounts to $1.4 trillion and accounts for more than half the federal budget. Two years of mismanagement have left a truckload of problems to fix, including taxes,” said Barton.

Barton has represented the 6th District of Texas since 1984.

He is currently the senior Republican on the House Committee on Energy and Commerce – the oldest standing legislative House committee. He served as the Chairman of the Committee from 2004 to 2006.

The Energy & Commerce Committee has arguably the broadest non tax-oriented jurisdiction of any congressional committee, with principal House responsibility over matters relating to commerce, public health and marketplace interests.

Barton has been recognized by several organizations for his diligent work to promote a conservative agenda and protection of individual rights.

Barton is considered one of Congress’ leading experts on energy and he continues to fight for more American made energy produced from a wide range of sources. He believes this will keep prices affordable, while fueling America’s economy.

He also believes in reducing waste, fraud and abuse inside our government, while supporting lower taxes. Rep. Barton has supported eliminating the marriage penalty and estate tax, reducing capital gains taxes, retiring of the current tax code and sweeping bankruptcy reforms. He is also in favor of extending the so-called “Bush tax cuts” for all Americans.

Barton said Tuesday that when he heads back to Washington he would continue to fight for the basic traditional rights put forth by our Founding Fathers.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:42 PM
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3. Well, he's right about the Fed.
:yoiks:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:04 PM
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4. What 9th Circuit case are they talking about?
When idiots latch onto legal cases, they usually have no more than the shallowest understanding of it.

One can only imagine what ordinary legal proceeding here going on has been spun into this.

These are people who also think the UN is a conspiracy for world government and they want it out of our country!
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66 dmhlt Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:06 PM
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5. Even a libertarian legal blog agrees w/ the amicus briefs
Ninth Circuit Lets Foreign Governments File Amicus Briefs in Challenge to Arizona’s Immigration Laws

It seems to me eminently legitimate for countries to defend their own interests and the interests of their citizens when those interests are affected by the actions of foreign countries, by lawfully appealing to those foreign countries’ governments (whether the judiciary branch, the legislative branch, or the executive branch). I would hope that the U.S. takes steps to protect the interests of America and Americans in documents filed with the Mexican government. I likewise see nothing wrong with Mexico taking similar steps (again, lawful, orderly steps) to protect the interests of Mexicans in documents filed with the American government.

(Snip)

Nor is there something odd about the Ninth Circuit allowing the filing of the briefs, or the federal government agreeing to the filing. As best I can tell, what happened in this case is this: A bunch of groups asked for leave to file amicus briefs. The Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure generally require prospective amici to get consent from the parties, or leave from the court. As best I can tell, the Ninth Circuit generally freely grants leave to file amicus briefs, and the federal government generally consents. The foreign governments asked both parties for consent; the federal government said yes, the state said no, and the Ninth Circuit (again, in keeping with its normal practice) let them file. At the same time, the Ninth Circuit accepted briefs from a bunch of other groups, too:


Filed clerk order (Deputy Clerk:WL): The following entities, individuals, and governments have filed Motions for leave to file an Amicus brief: (1) The United Mexican States; (2) Legal Momentum; (3) Arizona Cities of Flagstaff, Tolleson, San Luis, and Somerton; (4) City of Tucson; (5) The County of Santa Clara, California; (6) Anti-Defamation League; (7) Friendly House Plaintiffs; (8) League of United Latin American Citizens, National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders, Chicanos Por La Causa, Inc., Magdalena Schwartz, Joseph David Sandoval, and David Salgado; (9) National Council of La Raza, United States Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, The Hispanic National Bar Association And Los Abogados Hispanic Bar Association; and (10) American Immigration Lawyers Association. The following governments have moved for leave to join the Amicus brief of The United Mexican States: Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Costa Rica, Ecuador, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Paraguay, Peru, and Chile. All of the Motions are GRANTED and the clerk shall file the Amicus briefs submitted by these parties. <7495148> (WL)

No favoritism, as best I can tell, being shown to the federal governments; they are just being allowed to express their views much as other groups are routinely allowed to express their views.... I don’t see anything sinister about its considering the views of foreign governments alongside the views of other amici in making its decision.


Source:
http://volokh.com/2010/10/07/ninth-circuit-lets-foreign-governments-file-amicus-briefs-in-challenge-to-arizonas-immigration-laws/
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