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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:50 PM
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Scary stat: O'Donnell won the white vote in Delaware
via Balloon Juice.

Vote by Race:

Total Coons O'Donnell Other/No Answer
White (71%) 45% 51% 4%
African-American (22%) 93% 6% 1%
...


http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2010/results/polls/#DES01p1

That's how dumb we white people can be. And having pointed a finger at my own ethnic demographic, I'll note the over 65s preferred her too. And rural voters. :scared:
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:52 PM
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1. Barely over half of white voters voted for her. That is not "the white" vote
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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:52 PM
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3. The OP said she won the white vote - she clearly did.
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:06 PM
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18. So what do you call the 45% of white voters that did not vote for her?
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:25 PM
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26. Schmart!
--imm
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:56 PM
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34. Masturbators. n/t
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:53 PM
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4. Yes, it is.
Did Barrack Obama win the American vote in 2008? Yes, though not unanimously.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:54 PM
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6. If only white people had voted, she'd be Delaware's new Senator.
Let that sink in.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:05 PM
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17. Okay
Are you saying that only white people should vote, or that we're about to go to a system where only white people are allowed to vote, and therefore ninnies like O'Donnell will soon become the norm?

As an older white man, I will say that I'm proud to belong to a political party that addresses (or tries to address) the concerns of all Americans, rather than just the issues that are supposed to be solely the concern of older white men. I'm secure enough in my position in life (n.b., this does not pertain strictly to financial matters) to recognize that when other people feel as secure as I do the society as a whole functions better. Rights and privileges are not a zero sum game; if other people enjoy the benefits of our society, that doesn't mean less benefit for me. Indeed, I will do better personally if my neighbor is doing better.

I recognize that not all older white men think as I do. I think I'm right, though.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:08 PM
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19. What makes you think I'm saying that?
I don't want to dignify blatant misreadings of my posts any more, so I won't. Burden of proof is on the misreader. I thought I made myself pretty clear.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:39 PM
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27. Gee, I thought I asked nicely enough
But what ARE you saying when you say that if only white people had voted, Christine O'Donnell would be Senator? Are you saying that only white votes should count, or that we're moving toward such a system? And if that's not what you're saying, then what are you saying, because it's not clear at all? It seems a reasonable question in the area of the universe outside your mind, but that may just be the rest of us. I apologize to your offended dignity.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:53 PM
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28. What I'm saying is pretty clear.
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 01:58 PM by BurtWorm
You can take it at face value. You do not have to read anything deeper in it thant what it seems to be saying: that if only votes from people who identified themselves as white were counted in that race, Christine O'Donnell would have won. This is what's called "winning the white vote." If only African-American votes were counted, O'Donnell would have never had a chance. That's called "losing the African-American vote."

Get it? Nothing need further be said about which votes "should" or "shouldn't" count. Mine was a descriptive post, not a prescriptive one. You might as well go bark at the weather person for thinking he or she is telling you it "should" be a miserable day when it is one.
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SweetieD Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:00 PM
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31. I think what he is saying is Thank god black people have the right to vote!
not that only whites should be voting.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:06 PM
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37. Ok, you got me.
That is my subtext. Thank you.
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:10 PM
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20. I am another older white male and I surely would not have voted for her.
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 01:16 PM by county worker
It is popular to play the guilt trip and guilt by association game here at DU.

I agree with what you said and it applies to me to. I have always believed that what is good for minorities and women is good for me and I have always supported minority rights and issues not because it is good for me but because it is the right thing to do and will continue to do so until I die.

I do not belong to that 51% of whites in the OP and to suggest that that represents white people is ludicrous!
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:52 PM
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2. I think it has more to do with the white subpopulation being more Republican than the state overall.
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 12:52 PM by BzaDem
Though they didn't release those crosstabs, so I couldn't tell you for sure.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:58 PM
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10. It's scary when Republicans vote for a crazy woman who's never achieved anything
purely because she's on the Republican ticket. It shows a total lack of thinking, let alone judgement. Shit, Karl Rove pointed out how bad she is.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:00 PM
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13. Would you ever vote for a Republican if the Democrat were similarly crazy, but happened to agree
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 01:01 PM by BzaDem
with Democratic principles?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:04 PM
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16. I wouldn't vote for a crazy Democrat
(I am British, but transplanting the concept to our parties ...)

Whether it would push me far enough to vote for a Republican/Conservative, I don't know. It'd depend on the chances of the crazy person getting elected, I suspect.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:12 PM
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22. While Alvin Greene is not crazy, he has absolutely no qualifications yet many Democrats in SC
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 01:12 PM by BzaDem
voted for him. They did not want to enable Jim DeMint.
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localroger Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:54 PM
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33. Plenty of people in LA-02 did just that
William Jefferson thought he was Rep for Life, and was brazenly unapologetic about his and his family's indictments, the money in the freezer, the priority-1 trip to "inspect" his own home while people were still being rescued from rooftops afte Katrina, and on and on. Plenty of D's thought that Joseph Cao looked like a decent enough guy, even if an R, to be a better choice than the "I'm as honest as Vitter is chaste" Jefferson. And as everyone predicted two years ago, in this cycle when the Dems had a normal candidate the people of LA-02 tossed Cao out even though they were supposed to be participating in a Republican wave.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:53 PM
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5. Someone will be here soon to ask?
BUT WHAT DID THE GAYS DO?

Gays = Demon Voters
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:01 PM
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36. We had alot of people from the HRC come out and support Coons
He came out point blank and said that everyone deserves equal rights and that he would support the repeal of both DADT and DOMA
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:55 PM
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7. Egads!
Thank you, African Americans of Delaware!

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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:55 PM
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8. if you will recall, Obama lost the "white vote" nationally in 2008 by an even larger margin
Although Obama did capture the "white vote" in Delaware (albeit not by a huge margin)
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:58 PM
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9. Lost the 2008 "white vote" in every category except for 18-29 year olds -
an excellent point made by Michael Moore last night!
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:59 PM
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12. Yeah, but McCain is Socrates compared to O'Donnell
(Maybe McCain knew Socrates ... :D )
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:18 PM
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24. LOL
:rofl:

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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:16 PM
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23. Yep nt
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:59 PM
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11. Not dumb.
Evil.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:04 PM
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15. I'm with you.
Selfish, entitled, aggressive behavior is evil.

Fuck every single piece of the devil's shit who voted for O'Donnell.

Fuck them with a rusty, tetanus-covered railroad spike.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:02 PM
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14. when I first saw "Coons" given the subject, I was
taken aback. silly me.

No, strike that. Silly Delaware, if that many people were taken in by this nonwitch?
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:23 PM
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25. It shocked me.
First I see "White" as a heading, and nearly next to it, "Coons." I did an immediate :wtf:, then remembered, it's the Democrat. I didn't remember his name.

I recovered from that quickly, but not so much from the thought that anybody could want someone with O'Donnell's world view to be the leader of anything. Worth another :wtf:

Wiccans I know are diverse, but usually progressive if they are political at all. (But I'm in a very liberal county.) I don't fault O'Donnell for her curiosity, and I wince at the intolerance. (I don't mean you.)

--imm
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:11 PM
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21.  from another post...
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SweetieD Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:54 PM
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29. Angle in NV won the statewide white vote at 55%.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:56 PM
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30. Delaware had only 47% turnout: the Repubs just did a better job of turning out paleskins
on their side
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:40 PM
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32. I can pretty much guarantee you that the 45% of white people who voted for Coons live in Wilmington.
Or Rehoboth.

Because pretty much everywhere else in Delaware is, um...

...well, about what you'd expect from the O'Donnell vote.

Useta spend a fair amount of time there when we lived on the Eastern Shore.

reminiscently,
Bright
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:00 PM
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35. Guess what - Delaware isn't just white people. You have to win all the votes
And clearly she was rejected by Hispanics & African-Americans. Their vote is just as important as the white folks.

And this should be a lesson to the rest of the states. If we continue to abandon the 'minorities' - African-Americans, Hispanics, Women, GLBT, etc. etc. etc. we will continue to lose races.

Here's an interesting statistic - the first 3 districts of Delaware are in Wilmington and in some of the poorest sections of the city. O'Donnell received less than 10% of the vote in those districts and we were able to get high turnout in those regions by working our asses off.

The next 2 years we need to reach out to these groups and show them that they the Democratic Party represents them along with all working class people regardless of hertitage, sexual orientation, ethnic group etc. etc. etc.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:13 PM
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38. dang, it was the men too
I was thinking maybe the white women voted for the female candidate, but she split the white female vote by 48-48% while winning the white male vote by 54-42%, and it was mostly senior citizens without college educations.
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