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negativenihil Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:47 PM
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"NBC News Source: Our Rules Don't Apply to Olbermann and MSNBC"
http://gawker.com/5682789/nbc-news-source-our-rules-dont-apply-to-olbermann-and-msnbc

This just got REAL interesting.....

"The standards department has told us that MSNBC doesn't answer to NBC News standards," the insider said. "They don't have coverage over MSNBC. They used to, back before MSNBC went political, but at some point it became too hard and MSNBC was taken out of their portfolio. As far as I know, there are no ethical standards at MSNBC. And if NBC says MSNBC is supposed to be living up to the NBC News standards, that's a preposterous lie."
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:48 PM
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1. Uh-oh ... sounds like the Comcast angle may be true ...
Any excuse to scuttle an annoyance ...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:58 PM
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15. What is the Comcast angle? I missed that piece. n/t
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:00 PM
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19. Comcast purchase of NBC Universal (maybe GE overall) being finalized
and Comcast is rightwing.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:07 PM
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22. Ah! Thank you. n/t
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:24 PM
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29. More on the Comcast connection here
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:37 PM
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35. Thanks and tweeted. n/t
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:49 PM
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2. "This just got REAL interesting".....
yes it did...the plot thickens.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:49 PM
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3. recommend. -nt
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:49 PM
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4. I've heard that before too.
There were stories that NBC News division and Brokaw were not happy with MSNBC.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:51 PM
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6. Why - because people would rather watch Keith than Tom?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:55 PM
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11. Tom was off the air by then
It's because of the stuff written in the OP.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:00 PM
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20. I was being facetious.
:hi:
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:50 PM
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5. Kick and Rec!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:53 PM
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7. Sure hope that Politico AND Phil what's-his-face have to apologize to Keith...and us.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:54 PM
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8. that is true NBC is broadcast net and MSNBC is cable
there is a difference re: rules and regs
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negativenihil Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:54 PM
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9. this is seriously making my head spin... n/t
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:54 PM
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10. I hope Keith has a good lawyer.
Because according to MSNBC's own policies, Keith was not obligated to report his contributions, since his political views are well known.

"If a contribution, monetary or otherwise, to a candidate or group with a political or social agenda could create the appearance of a conflict of interest due to the employee’s responsibilities at MSNBC.com, the contribution must receive the prior approval of the section Executive Producer or Editor in Chief.


Where was there a conflict of interest? Everyone knows where Keith stands on politics, including MSNBC when they hired him.

I expect he will be back very soon as they had no grounds to suspend him.
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negativenihil Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:55 PM
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12. do you have a direct link to this? thanks n/t
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:57 PM
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14. Link
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:59 PM
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16. MSNBC, 2007
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:25 PM
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30. Yes, sorry.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:56 PM
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13. He had the guy on his show
without disclosing the donation. Thats a clear conflict of interest if you ask me.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:59 PM
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17. In what universe has Olbermann presented himself as an objective journalist?
He's clearly an Oped guy.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:16 PM
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26. SO?
that doesnt mean he shouldnt disclose his associations.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:22 PM
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28. What happened to your "conflict of interest" argument?
And being publicly supportive of Democrats is a disclosure.

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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:33 PM
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32. he promoted the guy on his show without disclosing he donated directly to the guy
thats a lot different than generaly supporting dems. Its crappy ethics and if you want to stand up for that sort of journalism cause kieth does it by all means go to it. I wont be joining you in cheering the further degredation of our media just because its someone we like.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:42 PM
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37. Oh, brother. Opinion is not journalism, it's opinion.
And from what I gather, the donation was made after the appearance, not before.

I don't even watch Olbermann but the lengths that people are going to in defending this bs is just sad.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:48 PM
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38. clearly we dissagree.
I find the pathetic excuses made for a news anchor unwilling to follow basic ethics of journalism equaly as sad.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 06:28 PM
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41. he's not a news anchor FFS
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:59 PM
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18. Did the donation come before or after the appearance?
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:15 PM
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24. Suposedly the same day
I dont know if it was that day before or after.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:52 PM
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39. After. And it looks like it's not even that one that is the problem
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:39 PM
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36. Like Joe Scarborough did?
The policy has been to keep their leanings quiet. But Keith was hired BECAUSE of his leanings, so according to their own rules, he was not required to refrain from donating to a political party.

He has had many Democrats on his show, that is what he does. That's why we watch him. But it is the height of hypocrisy to suspend a liberal commenter for doing exactly what a conservative commenter did without being suspended.

They need to make up their minds.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:03 PM
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21. This is time to lawyer up
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:16 PM
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25. Yes, I'd say that's correct.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:07 PM
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23. .
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:19 PM
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27. We should probably figure out what rules MSNBC does apply then
I seriously doubt anyone from MSNBC (who matters) really wants to see Keith suspended. He's a grand money maker for them and well loved there as well from my understanding.
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Babyhoneylips Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:32 PM
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31. uh-oh msnbc! nt.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:34 PM
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33. "As far as I know, there are no ethical standards at MSNBC"
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 03:34 PM by GeorgeGist
well there you go. :sarcasm:?
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haifa lootin Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 08:32 PM
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45. LOL! Thanks, I was starting to wonder if I imagined seeing that!
:silly:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:35 PM
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34. KO needs get get some lawyers ready and SUE their asses!
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newblewtoo Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 06:28 PM
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40. careful now, he could end up
like Randy Moss or Juan Williams, traded to the competition. :sarcasm:

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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 06:31 PM
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42. Exactly. I hope he sues Comcast and MSRNC for megamillions.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 07:19 PM
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43. and shares it with everyone at DU. lol..
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 08:28 PM
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44. They are the new Republi-gods.
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