I'VE HAD ENOUGH ...TELL ME WHERE

[mstinamotorcity]

my Democratic business owners are? Where is my Democratic owned grocery store? Where is my Democratic owned dry cleaners,real estate reps,shoe stores.

I want to take my money to them to build economic power with those who have some of the same beliefs that I do.I want to spend my dollars where it will help build up their businesses. I don't want to give a repug any dime that I can keep from them. They may get me for utilities and gas, but damn it I am going to try and control what ever little money I have left to make sure they don't get it.They steal elections and whatever else they want but I choose not to Commerce with the Chamber of Commerce.

Duers that have businesses should be getting together to make the economic situation of the Democrats better. I willing Where ARE YOU??????

[Tansy_Gold]

1. This time of the year, check out your local

arts & crafts holiday fairs/shows/bazaars. You may not be able to get your groceries there, but you can talk to the individual crafts people and find out their politics. You'll also be able to buy usually better crafted than the plastic crap that comes from China.

Check out local farmers' markets -- again, talk to the sellers.



Tansy Gold, local artist and craftsperson and very angry Democrat

[mstinamotorcity]

3. Thank you Tansy_Gold

I do flea markets and selling fairs.But we need to find the businesses so we can help each other.Because with money we have economic power. And I want to help empower my fellow Democrats and their businesses. No dollars for Bonzo!!!!!! Or his Fucked up friends!!!!!!

[patrice]

2. We need an Alternative US Chamber of Commerce, instead of the US Chamber of China Commerce.

[mstinamotorcity]

4. If Democrats help Democrats

maybe our money walking can do some talking.

[AnArmyVeteran]

49. Imagine if 40,000,000 liberals united against bad companies, etc...

With the internet we could form a massive boycott system and any company that went afoul could be put out of business or at least forced to succumb to our demands.

Our voices could overwhelm every dollar on the face of the planet. If we stuck together and people acted with principles.

[bobbolink]

5. I know I have come across lists of blue businesses, but right now I can't find them.

I do remember reading, for example, that Costco is a blue company.

Good luck.

This reminds me of the speech by Malcolm X on supporting black businesses.

I wish there were the same for poor businesses... talk about an oxymoron...:(

[we can do it]

62. Buy Blue? Is It Active Again?

[bobbolink]

63. For $250,000 apparently. ^_^

http://www.buyblue.com/

The OP hasn't returned, so I'm not willing to search further. :shrug:

[we can do it]

68. Out of My Price Range

[AnArmyVeteran]

6. I stopped buying from known republicans 15 years ago.

I also got an Allstate Insurance franchise owner fired and stripped of his franchise. I took him to court over a deliberate non payment of a valid claim and I recorded all of our telephone conversations I later used as evidence. Because of my lawsuit his business was closed down.

How did I know he was a right winger? Answer: Everytime I went to his office their radios were on Rush Limblah's program. I not only won my court case I managed to get that right winger's business closed down. Btw, I represented myself in court. Over the years I've been to small claims court 7 times to sue a business for acting illegally or unethically. I won all seven cases because I did all the preparations very thoroughly. I never used an attorney.

I'm going to follow your lead and make sure almost none of my money ends up in a republican's hands. Thanks for the post!

[Dappleganger]

9. Damn!

You're quite impressive. :yourock:

[mstinamotorcity]

11. Thank you for hipping

me to some things. And I am glad you feel me on this, I just want us to stand for something or we will sit down for anything!!!!! They have went too far!!!!This Mid-Term Election,Suspending Keith,getting on my fucking nerves. I believe in being pro-active when I am angry. And I hold a grudge.!!!!!Maybe wrong but if I didn't like it the first time I WON"T LET YOU FUCK ME TWICE!!!!!!

[butterfly77]

24. I am tired of hearing about..

how we can't do this or can't do that. This is why Dems are getting their asses kicked listening to trolls.

[AnArmyVeteran]

47. Guided anger is good. Thanks for those nice comments.

[mstinamotorcity]

85. My Bad!!! I didn't mean

that......we were....ummm...Sorry emotions got the best of me:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

[Fire1]

52. Hats off to ya! Really impressive. n/t

[sabrina 1]

83. Wow, that's impressive. I'm glad you're on our side.

[Wind Dancer]

89. Fantastic!

It's refreshing to read your post.

[bobbolink]

7. Malcolm X on Black Businesses

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrHub0ASEQs

[Pathwalker]

8. I am simply going to STOP spending any money.

I will purchase only groceries, meds, cat food, and replace whatever breaks. Beyond that, nothing. On X-mas day, I will present my family with gift cards, so they can purchase what they want at the after X-mas sales, at deep discounts. My mini-van is dead and my hubby doesn't want to spend the money to fix it, so I can't go anywhere to spend any money any way.

[Naturyl]

13. That's the right idea.

Stop propping up the whole system. That's the only way to go. I salute you - you are going the road of Gandhi.

[sendero]

99. Both ideas are good..

.... stop buying anything you don't really need, but when you do buy try to buy from Dems.

[cynatnite]

10. Don't punish American businesses who don't share your politics...

We need them even though we don't believe the same.

The best support we can give is by donating money to our political party and politicians of choice.

[Tansy_Gold]

12. I will happily and willingly punish those businesses whose owners

contribute to their own -- and my -- demise.

And if I destroy their business, perhaps some more liberal owner will take it over.




Tansy Gold

[cynatnite]

17. And their employees are without jobs...Congrats. n/t

[Tansy_Gold]

21. Their employees are probably pukes, too, and if they're not

they get a job with the new owner.

I'm dead level serious about this. I'm tired of the rationalization that we have to support puke businesses -- like fucking Walmart -- because of the employees. That means we shouldn't have fought the Civil War because then the slaves were out of work??????????????


TG

[cynatnite]

23. So fuck the workers...that's what you're saying...

If you don't like their politics...fuck them and their families. Fuck them all. They can starve...lose their homes. Have no insurance. Go on welfare.

Wow...how progressive you are. How compassionate you are.

How fucking dictatorial you are. You don't like someone's politics and you want to screw over even the poor saps who had the rotten luck to need a job at a place that doesn't meet your approval.

:puke:

[Tansy_Gold]

33. How 'bout we do it the other way?

We patronize only those businesses that have the most underpaid workers, because that way we will be supporting the workers even though most of the profits will go to the owners and the workers will never see another penny.

That way we can let the more progressive companies fail, putting THEIR workers out of work, so they can go to work for the SUCCESSFUL companies that we've been supporting!

Of course, they'll have to take a pay cut and lose their benefits, and then we can feel even more sorry for them and support their employers even more, because eventually it will all TRICKLE DOWN TO THE EMPLOYEES.

Right? Isn't that the way it's supposed to work?



:sarcasm: because I'm still not going to support rightwing-owned businesses.



Tansy Gold, who may have to give up her favorite coffee shop, too

[cynatnite]

40. I think I'll just support American businesses. n/t

[rhett o rick]

88. How will you recognize an "American business"? nm

[rhett o rick]

87. The total number of jobs wont decrease.

And your "congrats" is totally rude.

[mstinamotorcity]

18. Now we talking

I don't give a fuck about a repug losing a damn thing. They did not give a damn when millions of my sisters and brothers of all ethnic backgrounds lost their jobs and I am supposed to feel sorry??? Not happening!!!!!They have stolen everything including the life insurance policies of our Soldiers!!!!! They need to go down!!!!!

[cynatnite]

22. And their employees...what happens to them because you don't like their bosses politics? n/t

[mstinamotorcity]

26. Don't think

I don't have feelings. But there are millions of people who have spent almost ten years out of work. The recession did not occur in September of '08,it started almost as soon as Dubya took office. And maybe it will take more Americans to lose some things they love to understand what jobless Americans feel like in AMERICA!!!!! And no I don't wish joblessness on anyone but sometimes you must take the bitter with the sweet when you are picking yourself up by your boot straps:sarcasm:

[cynatnite]

29. How many jobless Americans care about an employers' politics? n/t

[Tansy_Gold]

35. Maybe they should. n/t

[mstinamotorcity]

36. Personnaly I don't know

and job is not the only way a person can make money. And if I choose to spend my money with those who are out there like me, I am doing no more than what has been done to us. Fuck repug business. If others get hurt because I choose to spend my dollars with Democrats then maybe they should unionize and fuck their bosses first!!!!!!!

[fascisthunter]

39. BRAVO!!!!!

[mstinamotorcity]

77. Thank you

I appreciate your support!!!!!!!

[fascisthunter]

86. you are welcome

:toast:

[cynatnite]

42. It would be nice if people didn't live in a right to work states, too...

I'm just not willing to punish workers over their bosses politics. That's what we're talking about here. I live in a red state and I'm trying to find a job. I don't have the luxury to check into a potential employer's politics and use that as a basis to make a decision.

I've got a family to take care of.

[mstinamotorcity]

45. No one is asking you to do such!!!!

I want you to find employment. But if we as Democrats unite with our commerce dollars you may be able to find a job with one of us. Look the reason they have fear on lockdown is because Americans get comfortable doing things the same way. The Repugs has acted if they are the holy job creators. Can't you see they sent jobs away and phased them out to country's that will have workers for 2.00 a day. And if you get a job that doesn't have fair wages you will still suffer. Because you will be working long hours just to pay a bill. Not some bills. I wish you luck in finding a job, but I hope you find an employer who isn't republican because they won't get a dime of my damn money. Good Luck!!!!

[NuttyFluffers]

54. they obviously get rehired by liberal companies, duh!

eventually smothering out all weeds leads to your productive plants flourishing. basic gardening 101. please take your fear baiting back home with you.

O8)

[readmoreoften]

79. Well, since their bosses are anti-worker, their bosses aren't just fucking them over

they're fucking all workers over.

Get a clue.

[rhett o rick]

90. I will spell it out for you slowly. If everyone stops going to World Market and go to Trader Joe's

instead. Trader Joe will have to double business and hire those employees laid off by the Republican business World Market.

By moving your business you do not eliminate any jobs.

[mstinamotorcity]

95. This is why I say

what I am saying. I just want people to think about what we are saying. If you TOMB-Stone these no good rotten chumps and do exactly what should have been done years ago when those rotten Bastards took the Seniors money in the Savings and Loan Scandals forty fucking years ago. We owed that to them. They were the ones who had gotten hosed,dogs sicked on the them,family torn apart by lynchings and racism,and sexism. No we owe it to our selves to Commerce with each other. We have been told that we need their ass. Okay but we don't have to give you are money we make. We can systemactically put forth this movement. I am talking about going beyond buy blue. I am talking crippling these dogs forever and handing their ass over to a Federal Prison. Where the can finish the rest of their days listening to the very people they designed the prison for.

They want their country back,They can fucking have it, but they will not get my money to play their games with.Hurt everything I love with. No !!!!! We have only one voice left before its fighting time. And its economic power. They have held out like they were the last Great Hope of a Nation as bright as we are. Kiss my whole entire you know what.They may dictate your jobs,they may dictate your bills,but hey cannot dictate how you spend. I will NO LONGER classify myself as a consumer. I AM AN EDUCATED BUYER!!!!!! I will be looking for owners who have my Democratic dollars at heart. Fuck being slave to their economic whims. THE DEFINITION OF TOMB-Stone: Take Our Money Back =TOMB Kick Rocks you rotten suckers=Stone TOMB-Stone

[rhett o rick]

96. I am with you all the way but we have lots of work to do. It is harder than you might think to recog

nize a Democratic supporting business.

[mstinamotorcity]

98. A Small decal

with a blue TOMB-Stone that reads "I AM THE CHANGE' can be placed on a door,in a window,next to the register by the credit card acceptance placards,wherever. As long as other Dems know. But Repugs knowing that their money is slowly disappearing.......PRICELESS!!!!!!!

[sendero]

100. This point has been..

... correctly answered several times. Why do you keep making it, are you retarded?

[mstinamotorcity]

14. They are not an America

that respects me. I will not give the repugs one damn dime and it may be punishining American business but American business has outsourced jobs,bought an election,demeaned the charachter of a President, They can... Well you know what they can do!!!!!

[cynatnite]

19. Boycotting a business that outsourced jobs is fair game, IMO...

I wouldn't go up to a business owner and ask what his or her politics are before deciding whether I'm buying there or not.

I support American businesses. Period. Not doing so does far more damage to our country, IMO.

[Naturyl]

15. Do what?

We "need" business that support Repukes and conservatives?

No, f--k that. I don't need any such thing.

[cynatnite]

20. And their employees?

Should they lose their jobs because you don't like their bosses politics?

[Naturyl]

25. Unlike the rest of America (on both sides), I don't have a fetish about jobs.

They are not sacrosanct to me. What about the jobs of the workers at Gauntanamo?

Naw... that bit doesn't even come close to flying with me. Employment is not the center of life, it's just something to pay the bills.

[cynatnite]

28. A lot of people feel their jobs are sacrosant because there aren't a lot of them. n/t

[Naturyl]

32. I know, but that's letting fear run one's life.

I don't play that.

[cynatnite]

43. Most do play that. They need roof over their heads and food on the table. n/t

[Naturyl]

46. I know that too.

But my point stands.

Food on the table and roof over head is exactly what's used to control people. There comes a time when one has to take some risks to take a stand.

And yes, I have been homeless for my values in the past, and have sacrificed mightily on a personal level for a decade. Not bragging or being self-righteous, just saying that if we always draw the line at staying employed, we'll never get far.

[Codeine]

66. self-delete

totally not worth it

[laughingliberal]

81. If people take their money out of puke business and put it into blue business, the demand moves...

to the blue businesses and they get jobs there. It's pretty basic.

[fascisthunter]

34. why? The conservatives do it to us and have done it to us for decades

[cynatnite]

44. Because of workers...that's why I don't support this method...

They'll be the ones to ultimately pay the price. Donations is a better alternative...especially given the state of our economy right now.

[AnArmyVeteran]

50. I disagree. Political parties usually ignore you unless you're a millionaire.

Here's how I dealt with a corrupt business:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=9491093&mesg_id=9491464

[Tesha]

53. Why not? They'd gladly destroy your business *AND YOU*.

What *IS IT* with Democrats that so many of them don't
have the stomach for anything at all?

Tesha

[butterfly77]

94. Yes,everytime

we try to get something going some troll comes in to talk it down or some progressive whiner to tell us why we can't do this,that or the other..

[Greyhound]

59. No, we don't. You seem worried about your job and I certainly understand that,

but we are in a war and it's way past time our side started fighting back.

I hate to break it to you, but we are completely fucked for the foreseeable future and there is nothing we can do to stop it, so the best thing we can do it to make sure we come out the other side with a better understanding of what works and what doesn't to preserve our society.

[we can do it]

65. I Will PUNISH any company Stupid Enough To Sopprt the Downfall of the US

Booshco nearly killed us and I will be damned if I spend ONE PENNY at any company linked to the cabal. Dunkin Donuts for instance or anything to do with the Carlyle group

[butterfly77]

71. Why not?

and why are you shilling for the chamber of commerce remember http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97nAvTVeR6o

[tpsbmam]

82. I always favor businesses that support Democrats/progressives over those

that support Republicans. ALWAYS! When it's a choice between two businesses that sell similar items, I go with the one that gives to Dems. It's MY money they're donating, after all. Why the hell should I give it to Republicans if I don't have to?

[fishwax]

92. we don't specifically need republican-owned businesses

If you still purchase the products or services elsewhere, you're still keeping people employed.

[handmade34]

16. good!

[Waiting For Everyman]

27. Great idea!

We can vote with our money too.

[mstinamotorcity]

30. Thank you

This is my money and the rent is "TOO DAMN HIGH" and repugs can't have it if I can help it.

[SoCalDem]

31. This is one reason I buy very little these days.

and I shop carefully, trying to avoid mega-stores. I now grocery-shop at our local Mexican grocery store..(all the majors have left us high & dry)

[fascisthunter]

37. Protest with your money, the right wing's been doing it for generations

hell, they are the ones putting most out of work right now.

[Agent William]

38. let's see....

I'm sure you could check the FEC rolls to see which companies contributed to which campaigns. That's a good starting place.

And, as an extra I know that Costco and WinCo (if you are in Washington, Idaho Nevada or California) all give to Democratic causes, so that takes care of where to buy your groceries.

I've been doing that for quite a while, but it's hard to find a wing-nut store here in the UK.

x

[mstinamotorcity]

41. Thank You

It just makes me angry that republicans are doing the same thing. They have banned their money and support each other. There is no reason why we should not support our businesses who hire and deal with people fairly. We should learn to patronize one anothers businesses and build economic power amongst our selves.I see nothing wrong with being pro-active with our voices,emails,and our hard earned loot!!!!!

[Mimosa]

48. I recommend a superb graphic designer, illustrator with great business skills and experience

This guy is the best in his field, always ahead of the curve. A thinker and a great Dem. Check this out.

http://www.markandresenillustration.com/


If the DNC had him do their logo it would have been great!

One page of many great designs. There's a Barack Obama poster too:

http://www.markandresenillustration.com/portfolio.php/24/graphics/

[mstinamotorcity]

55. and thats

how we get started. We need to have a place where these businesses can be listed by state. Then when we need certain things we use are Democratic coalition to get it. I am not going to let them control my money. I am not giving them no more economic power to work against the people of America. Now others can do what they want but my money will go to businesses that have Democratic owners. I will no longer knowingly give away my economic power to those who posses to much already!!!!!!!!

[Cheronin]

51. Stand up!

This weekend NYC be there for the rally. You will find out who our supporters are and who gets our money!

[Greyhound]

56. I'm with you. I will go out of my way and pay a little more to support sanity.

Pull up to our house with your Reich-wing bullshit stickers and you won't even get out of your vehicle. At the first reich-wing comment, the interview is over, and if I have ever seen your reich-wing politics or religion displayed at your place of business you'll never see us inside of it.
:kick: & R

[mstinamotorcity]

70. Thank you

I don't know if this can get some traction. But these Bastards have went too far. The only thing they understand is money. So maybe its time they start feeling what its like to have Rand Paul's dream come true. Bitch. Yea I'm mad as HELL. I am sick of their shit. I tried being the voice of reason I wanted to try and use the ballot as my weapon but now all I see is some form of action must be done.

The Revolution should start with economic power. I am sorry this is fucking WAR and Damn it I am looking for soldiers. Not for violence,but for the voice of one party and Nation to STAND UP and be HEARD. Yes it took years for the effect of most boycotts to work. But when they did there was change. Yes we are hungry,yes we are tired, and yes we are fucking weary,but if I have one good breath left it will be for the truth. And the truth is that as a society we have been played by the Billionaires Boys Club and they want to control the world.Maybe now its time for the real Wall Street Margin call. And Fuck it if I have to feed my neighbor, because I'm doing that anyway,I will just put another cup of water in the soup and make an extra pan of cornbread.:patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

[Odin2005]

57. A progressive corporation is an oxymoron.

[haifa lootin]

74. No it isn't....it's just a rarity.

There are lots of corporations that produce or do things that people want or need, at a fair price, and employ people who are paid well and treated fairly.

[Odin2005]

76. Corporate Capitalism is inherently unjust.

The Corporate Investor class are parasites who steal wealth from the workers (which includes managers and supervisors) that do the actual WORK.

[Greyhound]

78. While that is certainly true there are some few that do far better than most,

And isn't that a big part of what we have to do, do as much as we can?

[Subdivisions]

58. Just, whatever you do, don't advocate a boycott of MSNBC. n/t

[we can do it]

60. I Just Saw a Plumbers Truck This Morning with a Palin Sticker

I am letting everyone I know that anyone that STOOPID will never work on my plumbing.

[we can do it]

61. We Need Buy Blue Again.

My money WILL NOT pay hateful people if I can help it.

[mstinamotorcity]

69. And I am with you on that I will not, can not, am not, giving

Republican businesses any of my money even if I work for them in some kind of unknown corporate way. Fuck them I should be able to work at their shit and not spend a dime in their economy. And I'm saying this because I know there are some of us who must work for or with them. No need to get into any more talk. Take action silently but with economic power. Don't contribute to the cause. Go to work, speak as usual and all the other common courtesies that one must do to get along. If a repug is your friend and you want to give them money in a time of need like house fire or death in the family, I see that, but anything else. Fuck them.
Take your money out of their banks get rid of those credit cards if you have any left and pay off those balances. Dig up a spot in the backyard in the spring and grow a small garden produce enough vegetables for a whole winter depending on what you grow. Hell you can make a starter sauce with ripe tomatoes for spaghetti and pizzas.Use your friends to help you find businesses that have owners that participate in the Democratic process. I know their are some with 401k's but you must make up in your mind if you are willing to take the penalties and taxes for early withdrawal. Or are you going to let them steal the last dime you have and get it all. Because make no mistake if they are trying to get rid of Our President they are planning to wipe us all out!!!!!!

There is not a sincere bone in their heartless bodies. And any body who thinks that their precious investments are so good I'll make sure when I get that 50 dollar check from BOA, I'll buy you a fucking drink!!!!!

And the more of their businesses close the more Democratic businesses can expand.

[stillwaiting]

64. Where I decide to spend my money is so much more empowering than voting.

I try my best to starve the beast whenever possible.

Getting friends to see the wisdom in it and spread the message is even more empowering. We've got to change the way the multinationals enslave us. I refuse to give them any of my money. Not. Gonna. Happen.

[mstinamotorcity]

72. Oh how they love their precious

businesses and ours are struggling. Now's the time Now's the moment!!!

[ima_sinnic]

67. check out Green America's National Green Pages -- "Economic action for a just planet"

Green America has a directory of "truly committed socially and environmentally responsible businesses." Not necessarily Democrats but at least not part of the uber capitalist model of corporate plunder and death.

http://www.greenamerica.org/

[David Zephyr]

73. K&R.

When we vote with our money, we vote with power. :)

[mstinamotorcity]

75. And you are

soOOOOO right!!! We keep giving up the one thing we really do have control over our economic power. There will be some who say oh no don't do that. No, Be like Nike "JUST DO IT". They don't give a damn whether you live. Hell they have insurance on you without your permission so you can die. Mr. Grayson was right. They want you to die quickly, so that why they don't want you to have health care,de-regulations to pollute your food,water,and air. Then they can collect this unholy amount of money after you die and your family may or may not see a dime. They can take whatever the fuck they want to do with their businesses and leave me alone. I want to spend the money I have left with people on the left. I quite sure there are people on the left doing business who wouldn't mind getting my business.

[DearAbby]

80. The People's Boycott

Facebook Page may help with some information

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=lf#!/home.php?sk=group_165989556764257¬if_t=group_activity

[mstinamotorcity]

84. Thank you for the link

I appreciate it. I just feel if they can steal twenty four percent of America's wealth...Lets put it like this- They want to take their country back, and we are coming to take our money back!!!! They have told us what Americans think,what we are,what to spend our money on, they have set the scenario for a long time. Its time Democrats take charge of their economic destiny. It is time to voice with your loot. Some of you don't have to tell anyone what you feel or think. Just start taking your money back. We wanted CHANGE well I think too many of us wanted it to come from our President. But I think the change must come from us. We must stop letting them create how shit should go. We should use the economic power to remind them how shit is!!!!!!

[DearAbby]

102. Indeed vote with your wallet

you life may depend on it.

[rhett o rick]

97. Yu have to be a Faceplant member to see. Er Facebook. nm

[Jeffersons Ghost]

91. K&R

[handmade34]

93. article from 3 months ago

and very relevent... big business/corporations are destroying us!!!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/7/15/884730/-Blame-Businesses-For-Not-Hiring

[butterfly77]

101. K&R!