Check in if you *don't* watch Olbermann (if you dare)

[BurtWorm]

:hi:

This would explain why I'm not particularly upset about this news, and why I view the emotions it provokes here with some sense of alienation. Not that I think Olbermann should be suspended for contributing to campaigns. If that's a rule at MSNBC, I think it should change. I'm opposed to the idea that journalists should preserve the illusion of ideological neutrality. i agree with Jay Rosen of Press think (http://pressthink.org/) that the illusion of bias-free journalism is more of a lie and therefore more harmful than the fact of bias in journalism.

But I have to add that from my perhaps ignorant perspective, this issue is very low on the totem pole of issues worth getting worked up over. I don't view this as a first Amendment issue. I view it as a philosophy of journalism issue. And perhaps to really underscore my difference on this issue, I've never found Olbermann to be a particularly good journalist or even entertainer, which is why I don't watch him. But then I do admire Rachel Maddow's work and I don't watch her all that much either. I just don't think there's anything you can learn from MSNBC that you can't learn from the Internet--from right here on DU, as a matter of fact--and you don't have to put up with commercials or Chris Matthews to get it.

[aquart]

1. You really felt a profession of ignorance deserved an OP?

[BurtWorm]

6. Profession of ignorance? No. I know enough about Olbermann to know he's not to my taste.

I'm curious: Do you think there should be uniformity of opinion or taste on DU about Olbermann? I don't.

[proud2BlibKansan]

47. +1

[BurtWorm]

57. Same question I asked aquart

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=9491461&mesg_id=9491529

[Contrary1]

68. You think people are ignorant because they don't watch the same programs as you? n/t

[hfojvt]

87. by definition they are

they do not know about the content of the show. Doesn't mean they are ignorant about politics, but when the discussion is about KeithO and Countdown, then they surely are ignorant about the topic.

Still, I do not think it is a bad thing to point out that not every progressive watches KeithO nor necessarily cares much about either him or his show.

[BurtWorm]

103. Keith and I go way back to when he was just another hysterical tv star fuming over the Clintons.

A sort of apprentice of Chris MAtthews and Geraldo Rivera at that time, before he made the career move to Imitate Edward R Murrow. I've seen his show enough times to be reminded of how unimpressed I've always been with him. But that's just me and my tastes.

[sabrina 1]

105. + 1,000 n/t

[LWolf]

126. I've never watched or listened to "KO," or any other tv or radio news or talk show

with the exception of CSPAN occasionally, NPR for 20 minutes M-F at 4:30 AM, and the old "Guy James" show, to support a fellow DUer.

Somehow I don't find myself ignorant. I'm able, who knows how, to keep up with what's going on in the world.

[Violet_Crumble]

129. What's a profession of ignorance is to assume all who don't watch him are ignorant...

Me, I don't know who he is apart from what I'm reading here in GD right now. This is clearly going to come to a shock to you, but people elsewhere in the world don't sit and watch the same people on telly that you do...

[SCantiGOP]

2. agree

I watch Chris Matthews, local news, and then usually switch to Rachel at 9, but Keith is a little over the top for my tastes.

[Cant trust em]

3. Cable news is the death of rational discourse. nt

[proteus_lives]

14. +1

I never watch any.

[NeedleCast]

19. Bingo

[CBR]

50. +1000. nt

[Number23]

118. Absolute truth. Even if I lived in a country that played MSNBC, I still wouldn't watch Olberman

[HereSince1628]

4. I don't anymore, but I did. And his show was a wedge that made other's possible

I'm dedicated to giving him more support than I gave to Carlos Zambrano when he got at his suspension.

[BurtWorm]

15. Fair enough.

I'm just not a hero-worshipper, least of all among journalists. You have to work really hard to deserve the label hero as a journalist. Very few of them do.

[alanquatermass]

130. Edward R. Murrow... Walter Cronkite... Deborah Knapp...

Not a very long list, actually.

[Naturyl]

5. I very rarely watch, but only because I avoid MSM altogether.

He's one of the relatively bright spots, though - and the suspension is total BS.

[Bill McBlueState]

7. I watch him if I'm bored between 8 and 9

But wow, it's amazing how worked up people get over a TV show.

[gateley]

8. I DO watch and I'm grateful for what he brings. I learn a lot from his show and

it feels SO GOOD to be able to watch someone who has the same ideologies as I. It's fun to scream "Right on!" as opposed to "You're so fucking stupid!".

[BurtWorm]

20. I can appreciate that. It's why I used to watch Bill Moyers and Amy Goodman.

And why I used to like listening to Al Franken and Rachel Maddow and others on Air America. I may not be able to forgive Olbermann for his complicity in the media reaction to Clinton's impeachment--and I am far from being a big Clinton supporter. I just didn't like the wolf pack attitude of MSCNBC in those days to the Clintons.

[taterguy]

9. Too cheap to pay for cable

I've caught a few minutes of his show if I'm in a hotel.

Pretty much agree with your OP though.

[BurtWorm]

21. Thanks.

:toast:

[blondeatlast]

10. Can I just barely check in since a rarely watch? nt

[BurtWorm]

17. Please do!

:toast:

[ananda]

11. I don't watch Olbermann because I boycott all cable news networks.

I still deplore what happened... especially since it's clear that many MSNBC
anchors and pundits have donated to Reeps.

I hate double standards.

And then what about FOX? That whole network should be suspended
permanently.

[BurtWorm]

27. If FOX is permitted to remain as the official organ of the GOP

Democrats should have their own cable news organ--and there should be no bones about it. No pretend "fair and balanced" but flat out "we're in this to kick Republican ass."

[Egnever]

12. I dont watch anymore

Only because I turned off my cable though.

[BurtWorm]

30. I just read today that there's a tide of people going cable-free

and it's growing. Simple economics. What do you really get when you spend $40 a month for what used to be free? And you *STILL* get commercials! (Americans can seem like idiots sometimes...)

PS: Full disclosure: I still have cable. I'm one of the idiots!

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. Well it is about five media companies

that have a LOT of power... but I guess you do not want any dot connecting here...

(SHHH BRING BACK THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE) a girl can dream.

[BurtWorm]

23. People tend to look the other way from what you say,

Too scary or distasteful to think their media heroes are basically commodities being sold to them.

[nadinbrzezinski]

26. Here is the deal

until the FIVE companies are broken up into at least 30 companies, and there is some competition for viewers, like real competition, each voice that actually covers news might be important.

I cannot get this across, it seems.

Well at the pace we are going we will have FOUR soon...

Hey Monopoly is not just a game... YIPEEE!

[CakeGrrl]

16. I don't watch. I don't watch ANY cable news - I get my info on the Internet

free of talking heads.

[BurtWorm]

29. I've even stopped watching Stewart and Colbert regularly.

I could easily get into that habit again sometime, but I prefer not to have any TV addictions.

:toast:

[Scurrilous]

51. Me too.

Cable news channels were deleted from my lineup ages ago.

[NeedleCast]

18. I don't, but I don't watch talking-head shows in general

I tune in for Maddow a few times a month. I like her a lot.

I think it sucks that KO got fired because while I don't like him that much I think he's a good counter-weight to the crap on the right. I notice that he has been suspended, not fired, and think this is all just a game to prevent the right-wing blow hards from screeching about how he violated corporate policy and wasn't punished. Would be that he's back on the air on the same channel, in the same time slot, in under a month.

[BurtWorm]

24. You are right on.

:toast:

[EFerrari]

22. I don't watch him and I have been up in MSNBC's face

because this is bullshit.

[Meldread]

25. I don't watch Olbermann, but I do watch O'Donnell and Maddow.

Keith is a bit over the top for my tastes, and besides he isn't telling me things I don't already know. He also isn't telling me things that I don't already think (for the most part). Keith and I - ideologically speaking - are pretty much the same, though I may be further to the left. That being said, I'm not interested in having my opinions and thoughts reflected back onto me.

I watch Maddow because she often reports on stories that aren't picked up by the rest of the media. She offers a different point of view not easily found elsewhere. I watch O'Donnell because he provides a perspective that I don't have - he's someone whose actually sat down in a room and helped make decisions in Washington. He also has the ability to get pretty good guests.

I occasionally watch Matthews because he provides pretty good insight into what is being discussed and talked about inside the beltway. He pretty much worships at the alter of conventional wisdom (AKA inside the beltway wisdom). So long as you understand that, he can be pretty useful in that regard.

I also occasionally watch Morning Joe. That provides me with enough insight into what conservatives are thinking and talking about - he also gets pretty good guests.

The only one I would struggle to live without is Maddow. Keith cannot provide me with anything I could not also get by coming to DU. As should be clear, I seek out those who can provide me with useful information or differing perspectives or viewpoints. I don't need someone to tell me what I already think or know.

That being said, I don't agree with the decision to suspend Olbermann without pay. I don't agree with or like the notion that your boss can dictate who you can and cannot donate to as a private citizen. I can understand integrity standards, but it seems backward. Just make the host disclose before an interview that they've donated to that persons campaign. Problem solved.

[BurtWorm]

28. Right on the money, through and through.

:applause:

[krabigirl]

31. I don't watch any cable news. However, I am still disgusted by this.

cable news is pure propoganda.

[walldude]

35. +1... Don't watch.. but WTF...

[ampad]

32. Former viewer here

I did not stop watching because of anything Keith did or said. I stop watching cable news altogether. For some reason I am just not into commentary anymore. At any rate I do believe that Keith show is important and that MSNBC needs to be called to task for this. The main reason being the comcast aspect which IMO is more important than the suspension of the KO show.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

33. I don't watch.

I try not to watch regular TV outside of some sports and a few choice TV shows (How I met Your Mother, SouthPark, Family Guy, etc...).
Other than that, netflix through Wii has been the greatest invention EVER!

[flvegan]

34. I don't watch, and never have.

Not my cup 'o tea.

[Initech]

36. I don't watch Olberman but I think his suspension was flat-out wrong.

Especially when you have Glenn Beck fantasizing about Obama being assassinated and Limpballs peddling his hate and garbage to our troops, this sucks.

[BurtWorm]

42. The media--especially the owners of media--are not in business to be fair and just.

Which is why I tend to hate them all.

[Initech]

53. I'm not gonna argue that.

[sabrina 1]

108. And you're okay with that?

I know you needed to share your own personal tastes with us for some reason, but this isn't just about Keith Olbermann. I don't consider my own personal tastes to be so important, but I do consider the fact that the media in this country has been dominated by rightwing hacks going on two decades now to be very important and something that badly needed changing. Keith started that change.

Keith Olbermann managed to get on the air and was a voice for the voiceless at time when the Bush administration was using its influence to get every progressive voice on the air, silenced. Ashley Banfield, Donahue, there was no progressive media at all.

Keith was successful in proving that, (even though you didn't watch him) there was a huge audience for progressive media. He opened the door, and is responsible for such shows as Rachel Maddow.

To put your own personal preferences about style or whatever your reasons are, ahead of the despicable state of our media, is a bit selfish to say the least.

I will be working hard for a boycott of that slot on MSNBC. Silencing progressive voices is not something I will remain silent about whether they are my personal choices or not. The world doesn't revolve around me, even if I wish it did.

[BurtWorm]

117. No progressive media? Who's Amy Goodman, chopped liver?

Look, if you like Olbermann, fine. I don't for some reason. I like a little more substance usually. Different strokes for different folks. Simple as that.

I'm really much more interested in knowing I'm not alone in my lack of enthusiasm for Olbermann among DUers. Look
down the thread and you'll see why I'm heartened.

The thing is that even if many of us don't find Olbermann to our taste, we still think the network is wrong for suspending him for exercising his constitutional right to donate to campaigns. And I'll add that if they're using this as an excuse to fire him for somethng else, they're being cowards.

I just can't get as worked up over it as you, for example, because Olbermann is not to my taste. And I think you greatly exaggerate his role in advancing left journalism.

[sabrina 1]

121. Did I say what I think of Olbermann personally?

I said, it's not about me or you. It's about representation and the silencing of liberal and progressive voices in the media.

Sometimes we have to stop thinking about 'me, me, me' and what 'I' like or don't like, and start thinking of the common good.

You seem to think it is all personal to YOU. One way I have found to figure out where someone is coming from is to count the number 'mes and Is' people use in a comment.

And that is what is wrong with this country. The 'me' syndrome, instead of the 'all of us are in this together' approach. So, you don't like Keith, can you tell us why that was so important in your opinion, that you needed to start a whole thread to let us know how you feel? Frankly, it ranks slightly higher in my book than what Sarah Palin thinks.

However, I'm glad you agree that the suspension was wrong, because it was.

[BurtWorm]

133. Or it's about the society of the spectacle and how hypnotized even lefties in this country are by

Things that really are not all that important. KO is not the only employee to get in trouble with his employers over an unjust policy. This injustice is actually pretty trifling in the history of injustices at the worklplace. This is not an American affaire Dreyfus. The political infringement he's accused of has to do with the election of one of the only two parties allowed to be elected in the US. It's not as though he was financing a labor organization or somehing actually radical.

Perspective and proportion would be nice to see. A little more of both.

[sabrina 1]

134. No, a truthful, fact based media is essential to Democracy.

Without it, we get illegal wars, torture excused, fear instilled in the people by propaganda blaring from their tv sets and radios 24/7. We get 'tea-partiers' and crazies running for Congress like Angle and Bachman, O'Donnell et al. Because the media we do have, treats them as if they were worthy of respect. I mean someone like O'Donnell who thinks democrats are cross-breeding humans with mice, producing mice with powerful brains running for the Senate, and actually being considered likely to win by our brilliant media.

THIS is the result of nearly two decades of the totally unchallenged Rightwing Propaganda Media Empire led by Fox.

If you think this is nothing more than one personality, then you are part of the problem. Because it was the attitude that Democrats were above responding to Limbaugh and Savage and Hannity, O'Reilly et al, that left the public with just these clowns, these lunatics screaming at them every day that 'liberals' are traitors, and we must kill and torture all Muslims because they are ALL terrorists.

Over 15 years of this total indoctrination, with the rest of the media afraid to offer REAL news or to counter the lies, gave us the country and the wars and the economy and the lunatics running and WINNING elected office, that we have today.

I used to scream at the tv, dreaming that one day someone would say out loud 'you're lying', but not until Keith Olbermann did anyone do so. And he opened the door for Rachel Maddow and other liberal, fact based commentators who began the arduous task of deprogramming Americans from the propaganda they had grown up on. Finally, a small ray of hope that maybe things were beginning to change.

It wasn't much, CNN, CNBC and the rest of the media from which people get their news, are afraid to really report what is going on, but it was something. Like water in an oasis, a few drops of truth and facts at a time.

It will take years to undo the harm done by the U.S. media. Some of it can never be undone, like all those dead Iraqis eg, who would be alive today, if the media did not do the bidding of the war criminals.

So you go ahead and keep thinking that this is not important. You must not have been there when the media was cheering the march to war, ignoring the lies and excusing the torture and the slaughter of innocents.

But I agree with Jefferson that without a free press, there is no democracy. And we are nearly there, except for a very few. And Keith Olbermann was one of them. And now they are going after him. Who will be next? There are only a few, they already got rid of most of them. Ashley Banfield, Donohue, Dan Rather et al.

I hope you don't mind if I go now and join the hundreds of thousands of others who are sick and tired of the censorship in this country while you stand on the sidelines and totally miss the importance of why people are so upset. Too bad this didn't happen 15 years ago. Maybe there never would have been a war, in fact I'm sure of it, or a Bush presidency, none of that could have happpened, not with a real news media.

[TheKentuckian]

37. Defend and support voices that represent our side of the debate

before there are once again none.

They will take them down one at a time and soon enough there won't be any cups of tea of any flavor.

[BurtWorm]

40. It's deeper than what you're making it out to be, I think.

The real cause worth fighting for here is honesty and truth-telling, not our side vs. their side, which, in my opinion, is another flavor of the tea cable news has been serving since the 24-hour news cycle started.

[TheKentuckian]

43. Keith was on my side almost always and told the truth even more

[BlueCheese]

38. I hardly ever watch television news...

It's too slow of a way to get news, and the opinion shows are pretty much unwatchable. FOX is the worst, of course, but CNN and MSNBC annoy me too.

[DireStrike]

39. I don't watch, but am angry about this.

I am in the same boat as the OP except I'm rather pissed off at MSNBC for making such a stupid move.

[earth mom]

41. The corporate media is corrupt as hell-so NO I don't watch it. Olbermann is one of the few good guys

on t.v. and I knew it was only a matter of time before they drummed up a bullshit reason to can him.

Up next: Maddow.

Everyone on DU should realize by now that the corporate media bastards are using propaganda full force to control and manipulate the people of this country.

Why do you think the recent election was so FUBAR all across the country? Answer: Faux News! :puke:

[watercolors]

44. Don't watch any of the cable news shows, waste of my time!!!

nt

[Liquorice]

45. I don't watch Olbermann. He irritates me. nt

[treestar]

46. I don't watch him much either

Nor any of them. I just don't find them entertaining. Colbert is funny sometimes.

[TwilightGardener]

48. Checking in. I think it's a shame he's suspended, but I'm not a regular viewer.

[elocs]

49. I don't watch KO, but then I don't watch any of them.

I sometimes see clips here on DU, but that's it. Lots of preaching to the choir.

[FreeState]

52. +1

I rarely watch the local news yet alone cable "news"

[leftstreet]

62. +1

same here

[Obamanaut]

54. I don't watch. No cable, no dish, no outside antenna. Only Netflix and music. nt

[Maru Kitteh]

55. Olberman is an arrogant, chauvenistic ass. His firing means I might give msnbc another chance.

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[BurtWorm]

63. Wow! You really do dare!

:toast:

To courage!

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

99. Can YOU tell me how he's a chauvinist?

You seem pretty excited about such an attack for someone who claims he doesn't know much about the guy.

[BurtWorm]

106. When did I say I didn't know much about the guy?

I remember him when he was hot on the trail of Monica Lewinsky. Remember? Not many do. He was making a career out of Clinton hatred until, just like GOP, he was blindsided by the 1998 midterms and possibly realized he was dependent on something that apparently wasn't going to happen the way he and his media pals planned.

As for his Chauvinism I really do plead ignorance on that.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

107. You do realize he left MSNBC because he was sick of covering that story?

Right?

[BurtWorm]

113. I remember him being shocked and astounded by the disconnect between

Him and his colleagues and the American people over the lewinsky affair. But before then he was totally fine taking paychecks as one of the boys.

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[tammywammy]

56. I don't watch any cable news

I'm also not a regular viewer of The Daily Show or Stephen Colbert.

[slipslidingaway]

58. I don't watch him anymore, stopped during the Presidential elections ...

In March 2008 he was talking about it being the 5th year since we invaded Iraq, his guest that week was John Edwards.

Why talk to the guy who not only only voted for the invasion, but promoted the invasion, instead of a candidate who voted no and spoke out against it many times.

:shrug:

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

61. So he should only talk to those who were against the invasion?

As far as pols go, that would be a short list.

[slipslidingaway]

114. Did I say that? But he should have included the only candidate who got it right ...

from the beginning and voted against the invasion.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

115. Who says he didn't ever?

You're just talking about one week you watched.

[slipslidingaway]

119. I watched regularly up until that week when he made it a point to mention...

it was the 5 year anniversary of the invasion and it was a topic of discussion. IMO a person who called it right at the time a vote was being taken would have been a natural choice for a guest that week, not another candidate who got it totally wrong.

Or have them both!

[Lilith Velkor]

60. Don't watch TV n/t

[U4ikLefty]

64. "if you dare"...WTF?!?

Are you trying to say something here?

Maybe Olberman conflicts with pom-pom practice.

[tammywammy]

67. I think it's more of

There's always been a great adoration for Keith and "do you dare say you don't watch him" since so many on DU do.

[U4ikLefty]

75. I think it's more of

People who don't like criticism of the administration & they want cover from those "bullies".

So many on DU watch him?...great adoration? What's their percentage on DU?

Methinks it's preemptive protection from someone who REALLY thinks it's no big deal that a liberal is getting kicked around from big-media AGAIN.

Hell, read his minimizing of Keith & Rachel in the OP.

Here's an idea: Try thinking of a thread saying "Check in if you're voting YES for Prop 8 (if you dare)."

[BurtWorm]

81. Not feeling it for a media star is equivalent to voting yes on Prop 8?

Really?

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

91. Apparently it's also okay to call Keith a chauvinist in this thread

....and the ones who ask for proof of such accusations have their post deleted......

[hfojvt]

104. apparently they did not ask very politely

Somerby has mentioned it many times
http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh080708.shtml

"For the past two nights, our own Mister O has pimped this matter extremely hard on Countdown. He keeps played his bump-and-grind footage of women competing in the “Miss Buffalo Chip” contest—and he has mentioned this nonsense endlessly. On Tuesday, we were surprised to see Rachel Maddow take part in an entire segment on this topic—the segment which ended the program. “These pictures are very distracting,” she said at one point, as Keith-O returned to his bump-and-grind footage. But Maddow spent an entire segment promoting this skankified nonsense."

[tammywammy]

101. I don't know the percentage and I don't care

I can tell you every time Keith does something *anything* there's multiple threads on here about it.

I don't watch him and it has nothing to do with his criticism of the current administration.

[BurtWorm]

78. Exactly.

Some evidence of olber-zealous defenders in this thread.

[BurtWorm]

79. WTF are you talking about?

I really don't get it. Are you arguing that life outside of Olbermann adoration is 'pom 'pom practice?'

[U4ikLefty]

85. I'm saying that nobody thinks that the fact you don't watch Olbderman is anything

important to anybody but your own ego. WTF does that matter in regards to this issue?

"If you dare" indeed. You didn't need to add that BS to you OP title, but you did...why?

Nevermind, I'm done giving you attention.

[BurtWorm]

89. Sorry to offend your idolatry.

Ok?

[hfojvt]

111. because he expected that people who don't watch KeithO

would be attacked. You didn't meed to oblige, but you did, and made him a prophet.

I still think his thread is important. It raises the point that not every progressive watches KeithO and not every progressive is very upset about his suspension.

I think their feelings are wrong though, because it's very important to have liberal voices on TV. However, one may wonder whether he does more harm than good. To some degree he does not provide much of a threat to the right and mostly serves only to stir up the left and stroke our egos by attacking the other tribe, while the other tribe just sees him as showing the arrogance of our tribe. As such he serves to further divide us and to increase the hate in this society. That probably makes him the worst person in the world.

[BurtWorm]

120. Interesting post.

:toast:

I enjoed reading that!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

80. Ironically, some of the biggest anti-Obama posters are cheerleaders for Keith.

[U4ikLefty]

82. Ironically + some = anyfuckingbody

try again

[Starbucks Anarchist]

83. What?

[U4ikLefty]

88. chicken-butt

[Starbucks Anarchist]

90. What you do with farm animals is not my concern.

[U4ikLefty]

92. You shouldn't talk that way about your mom. nt

Now I'm done with you.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

96. But where will I get 1st-grade insults from?

Maybe one of your sandbox buddies can pick up your slack. Be sure to take your helmet off first.

[Dappleganger]

69. I don't watch that often but like him and don't want him gone.

It's just a matter of not caring for his style but will tune in for certain topics if there's a buzz.

He's definitely getting the shaft and I think it's grossly unfair.

[Brickbat]

70. Right here. I understand that people can worry about more than one issue at a time -- hell, I do it

myself! -- but if all this energy went into building something, or fighting against the real enemies, we'd really have something going. I've never seen so many passionate threads about poverty, or outsourcing, or taking control of our destinies. It's a very short-term view here. And everywhere. It's human nature, I guess.

[ScreamingMeemie]

71. I don't. But not for the reasons you might suspect. It's stupid, really.

But it's a show, like The Daily Show, that I used to watch with MrG. It's one of those things that the memories make too excruciating to watch.

[some guy]

72. here

but I don't watch any television, and haven't owned a TV in something more than 15 years (I forget exactly.)


edit: I skipped a word.

[laughingliberal]

73. Really doesn't matter if I like the show or not. NBC letting him go for contributions to...

Democrats while Scarborough is still working after contributing to Republicans is the issue. It should be of concern to anyone who values a diversity of viewpoints in the media.

This is an affront to civil liberties.

[activa8tr]

74. Sometimes I don't watch Olbermann, sometimes I have a life at 8 PM!

And NO that's not meant to insult anyone, I hope we ALL have a life sometimes at 8 PM that precludes Keith on TV

[madfloridian]

76. You should be upset.

[BurtWorm]

84. For a tv star?

I'm not. I think the charge of donating to Dems is dumb and trumped up. But I think KO will
somehow survive this one.

[madfloridian]

86. If that is all you think this is about, then sit back and relax.

[BurtWorm]

102. Don't worry, I'm relaxed.

;-)

[Greyhound]

77. I've seen many of his commentaries on YouTube, etc., but don't watch teevee.

I like him and think this sucks, but what do people think is happening to us. Why people get so upset about what happens to a multimillionaire while they couldn't care less about what is happening to their family, friends, and neighbors is far more disturbing to me.
:kick: & R

[B Calm]

93. I find this post on DU sickening, maybe you should try posting it over

at Free Republic!

[BurtWorm]

122. What exactly is sickening about it?

[XemaSab]

94. TV news is garbage

n/t

[undeterred]

95. I can't afford cable tv so I've never seen his show.

And I know plenty of very intelligent people who don't even own a television.

[littlewolf]

97. Have basic cable ... no MSNBC/FOX /CNN/ etc

[TBF]

98. We have cable but I rarely watch tv -

I have watched a few videos of Keith on this site. I can see why folks are upset, he's one of the few anti-establishment folks in news.

[slackmaster]

100. Rarely

He pretty much lost me when he supported suspending the civil rights of people who are on the super-secret terror watch list that the Bush administration created.

[laugle]

109. I don't

watch any MSNBC, in fact I have forgotten it is even there! Prefer PBS,i.e., Charlie Rose, Frontline, Nightly news & Nightly business for the financials..............

Prefer objective programs, can't stand suck-up or bashing programs.......

[uppityperson]

110. Don't watch often as don't have cable but am upset @ rules not being applied equally since

others have donated without asking without being fired.

[BurtWorm]

123. Yes that is upsetting.

I agree.

[Canuckistanian]

112. Seems your opinion doesn't represent the majority n/t

[BurtWorm]

124. No but I'm glad to know there are a lot of DUers who feel as I do about KO

And agree with the majority that he was treated shabbily.

[Canuckistanian]

127. No kidding

Although it may be time for LEGAL remedies.

[Zephie]

116. All my news comes from here or Colbert/Stewart

I don't need MSM, you guys do all the work for me. =)

[LWolf]

125. I don't watch Olberman or any other tv talking head.

No tv news or talk shows, no radio news or talk shows with the exception of NPR for 20 minutes at 4:30 AM.

And I've been at work all day, just got home, and don't know what the news of the day is...yet. I'm about to find out.

[TK421]

128. I don't watch his show..he sort of came across as snotty

and his show really didn't do anything for me personally

[scarletwoman]

131. I'm TV free, so I've never watched him. This whole Olberman uproar is happening in a different

universe than the one I inhabit.

[bemildred]

132. I don't watch TV, any of it. nt