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Dave From Canada Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 04:38 PM
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Will Keith Olbermann Return to MSNBC?
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 04:39 PM by Dave From Canada
Source: TV Newser

Add Keith Olbermann to the list of MSNBC hosts suspended for things they’ve said, done, or in Olbermann’s case, not done. He failed to tell his boss he was planning to donate money to the campaigns of three democratic congressmen.

The question many are asking: Will Olbermann return?

Insiders we’ve talked to say Olbermann won’t be back. The question is whether he’ll leave or MSNBC keeps him off the air.



Read more: http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/will-keith-olbermann-return-to-msnbc_b38467?c=rss



This is bizarre. Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill. Ok, Keith may have donated small amounts to 3 candidates. I really don't think it's that big of a deal. MSNBC's policy sounds a little unconstitutional. But I just can't understand why Countdown would no longer exist over something that's pretty much small potatoes.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 04:41 PM
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1. Dave, you must be doing pretty well if you consider 3 x $2,400 (US) to be "small amounts"
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 04:47 PM by slackmaster
I've never donated anywhere near that amount to a candidate, and rarely given anything to a candidate to represent a state or district where I do not live.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 04:46 PM
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4. I'm not Dave but I kind of thought the same thing -- in relation to KO, as I assume
he's making a good salary. NO WAY could I ever come up with anything more than two digits! LOW two digits! :hi:
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ProgressiveLiberal Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 04:54 PM
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5. False equivalency - Olberman makes orders of magnitude more than "Dave" ....
So to him the contributions were indeed small amounts. When you make tens of millions - $7500 is like an expensive dinner.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:31 PM
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11. EXACTLY!
If I made Keith's salary, I'd have made max donations to every Dem running for office!
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kelly1mm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 06:57 PM
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15. Although those amounts may be small to Keith, they are the MAXIMUM
donations one can make directly to a candidate.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:05 PM
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8. Corporations freely give millions thanks to the Supreme Court.
In comparison, a few grand is chicken feed.

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Dave From Canada Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 06:47 PM
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13. I meant it the way others have already said. In that they're small amounts considering how much
money gets thrown around in election cycles. Personally, I think journalists should be able to donate to campaigns.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 06:58 PM
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16. The issue is not about whether or not journalists are allowed to donate to campaigns
Almost everyone agrees that they are allowed to do so and should be allowed to do so. It is their right as citizens in our democracy.

KO was not suspended for making donations. He was suspended for making donations without obtaining prior permission from his boss, which is (according to what I've read) a condition of his employment.

My own job has similar conditions. I could be fired summarily if I disclosed my real name on this forum.
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Agent William Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 04:44 PM
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2. I would be very, very surprised if KO was actually fired
If he was I could imagine that he would have a pretty health court case that would no doubt attract a lot of negative attention for MSNBC. Even if his hypothetical case is offset by contractual details, he could still potentially mount an aggressive effort to get pay back to his current employer.

In all I doubt they would fire the person that saved their prime-time line up.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 04:44 PM
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3. I wonder who the insiders are, and if they're correct, if it's Keith's call or
MSNBC's. :shrug:

I'd surely miss him, and I would think MSNBC would miss the advertising dollars his ratings probably generate. I'd venture to guess It takes a while for an anchor to develop a strong following.

I think it's great it's receiving so much attention - it seems to be an acknowledgement of the popularity he enjoys, almost like 'our' Rush or Beck - in a good way, if you see what I'm trying to say.
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ProgressiveLiberal Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 04:57 PM
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6. I seea whopper of a "Special Comment" When Keith gets back ;)
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groundloop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:03 PM
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7. MSNBC policy NOT unconstitutional
First Amendmant says the government shall pass no law...... (Ask Christine O'Donnel). An employer can terminate employment if an employee does something that causes that company embarassment or is against company policy or against something agreed upon in a contract.

Not that I support K.O.'s suspension, just sayin' MSNBC has the right to do it. We also have the right (duty) to email MSNBC and let them know what we think about it.

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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:07 PM
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9. Cenk willl take his spot....I bet
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 06:08 PM
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12. I agree.
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 06:08 PM by Cleita
I probably won't watch though. Hoping Keith shows up elsewhere. Maybe HBO will give him a show like they did Bill Maher.
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Swede Atlanta Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:27 PM
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10. Actually he doesn't have the right........
Free speech, including political speech, can be infringed as long as the infringement is not done by the federal government (and by judicial ruling by the states and their subservients).

To me the question here is does the penalty fit the infringement? He gave less than $10K to 3 candidates without permission. I could see a financial penalty or week long suspension. But if this goes on and KO does not return MSNBC will be removed from my channel line up permanently. Bye-Bye MSNBC
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 08:20 PM
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18. The problem for MSNBC is this now drifts into employment law
The ethics rule was NBC's rule. MSNBC has been treated as exempt from those rules. To suddenly apply the rule now invites lots of problems.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 06:50 PM
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14. Normally, I'd say no, but this shitstorm seems to have legs
So yeah, he may just be back. Hopefully.
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 07:34 PM
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17. at the end of the day, he is too important to MSNBC's ratings.
he may chose to not come back, but they won't keep him off the air.... ratings equal money....the language of corporate america.
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