Goodbye Joe Scarborough!!

[Rectangle]

Joey Scar also contributed to political candidates,
so I would also naturally assume that he is out the door too...
Right??
I mean, MSNBC would not have any Double Standards now would they?
C'mon!!
:shrug: :eyes:

[mgcgulfcoast]

1. if he contributed to repubs

he should be fired.

[katnapped]

2. That's a promotable offense

According to his Comcast overlords.

[otohara]

3. Difference One Donates to GOP, KO Donated to

a Democrat, which is a crime over at General Electric.

[Egnever]

4. Well i dont know did Joe declare his donations or did he fail to as kieth did?

cause they arent the same situation if he declared them.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

5. Can I take over the Morning Show?

[Slit Skirt]

39. only if i can be a guest

:evilgrin:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

40. Sure!

[FiveGoodMen]

6. If he got away with Klausutis, this won't dent him at all.

[Raine]

7. Maybe he let them know and got permission

apparently KO didn't, that seems to be the excuse.

[countrydad58]

19. Did He get

permission to actively campaign for Bush in 2004? I remember seeing the the black eyed demon son of a bitch on tv. at a Bush rally!

[kelly1mm]

8. If he got permission beforehand then he did not violate his contract like

Keith did so he has nothing to worry about.

[Gold Metal Flake]

9. You don't know what rules Keith worked under or if he violated any of them.

[kelly1mm]

10. And the OP does not know what rules Joe S worked under of if he

violated them either then.

[Gold Metal Flake]

11. So if you don't know what rules Keith worked under or if he violated any of them....

Why are you pretending that you do?

[Raine]

12. No one knows if Joe did either

so comparing them is just a waste for all concerned.

[kelly1mm]

13. Why is the OP? nt

[Gold Metal Flake]

15. dupe

[Gold Metal Flake]

16. I'm conversing with you.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

"If he got permission beforehand then he did not violate his contract like Keith did so he has nothing to worry about."

You don't know if Keith violated his contract and you don't know if Joe has anything to worry about or not. Blaming the OPer for your BS post is lame.

[kelly1mm]

22. I will be looking for your post pointing out that the OP is lame then.

The reporting as I understand it thus:

1) NBC has some rule saying some employees can't make donations to political causes/candidates without prior permission.
2) NBC is saying Keith made contributions without prior permission
3) Keith was confirmed that he did make the contributions (nothing about permission either way)
4) NBC says Keith is covered under this rule
5) NBC suspended Keith for violating the rule.

My problem is that the OP left out the "prior permission" part of the rule and instead made the connection that if an employee of NBC made a political donation at all they will/should be suspended. I simply pointed out he missed part of the rational NBC has put forward for the suspension.

[Gold Metal Flake]

23. You can look for whatever post you wish to look for. Enjoy!

As for posting "news" snippets, you "forgot" this one:
"The standards department has told us that MSNBC doesn't answer to NBC News standards," the insider said. "They don't have coverage over MSNBC. They used to, back before MSNBC went political, but at some point it became too hard and MSNBC was taken out of their portfolio. As far as I know, there are no ethical standards at MSNBC. And if NBC says MSNBC is supposed to be living up to the NBC News standards, that's a preposterous lie."

You don't know what rules Keith worked under or if he violated any of them. You don't know if Joe Scar has anything to worry about or not.

[kelly1mm]

24. So since you seem to think nobody knows if Keith broke any rules

why should we be discussing this at all on DU? Shouldn't we wait till it all plays out to discuss it - following your logic? This is a discussion board. The OP has posted a thought with less to do with reality than my posts and people are discussing it. I am fine with that. I added my 2 cents. Apparently you are not fine with that. And you know what .... that's cool too.

[Gold Metal Flake]

27. Here is my response to you.

I called you out on trying to pass off pure speculation as fact and you are uncomfortable with that. Your attempts to redirect the discussion from the topic has not worked.

[kelly1mm]

30. Fine with me. But no offence about the "pure speculation" of the OP

seems a bit ironic when it is exactly what you accuse me of.

[Gold Metal Flake]

32. So?

Admit thatn your post was BS and be done with it. I would not still be posting if you weren't still spinning around attracting my attention.

[kelly1mm]

34. since my "speculation" was confirmed by Rachel on both points

(that Keith made donations without preapproval and that "a morning host" made contributions that were preapproved) I guess I am a genius at speculation.

[Gold Metal Flake]

37. Your OP was not presented as speculation.

Why do you keep running from yourself? I hope Keith is better at admitting his mistakes than you are.

[haifa lootin]

14. I, for one, am eagerly awaiting his explanation.

Surely there is one, yes?

[Gold Metal Flake]

17. "Surely there is one, yes?"

Why would there even be a question? I am waiting as well.

[haifa lootin]

18. Well, it's a question until it's revealed, isn't it?

I see that I must be more careful with phrasing.

[Gold Metal Flake]

20. It's a mystery, not a question.

Let's be careful out there.

[butterfly77]

21. Is that you Scar?

[jeff47]

25. Problem is, those weren't the rules

The rules that KO was 'suspended' for were NBC's rules. Years ago, NBC stopped applying them at MSNBC. To suddenly start applying them would put the executives in quite the pickle. "Selective Enforcement" is a bad thing when it comes to labor law.

[kelly1mm]

26. Selective enforcement is a bad thing - ask NPR how that worked for them.

I am sure this is not over and we will get more facts over the next few days and weeks.

[Gold Metal Flake]

28. "I am sure this is not over and we will get more facts over the next few days and weeks."

Now on this we most certainly agree.

[kelly1mm]

31. That did come from my discussion with you upthread! You made

good points. Thanks for the discussion!

[Gold Metal Flake]

33. Hey, there is news.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9495761

Rachael confirmed MSNBC donation notification rules same as NBC.

[kelly1mm]

35. Saw that. Rachel pretty much confirmed the allegations in my original

post. I guess that is settled.

[Gold Metal Flake]

36. What I said about your original post is still correct.

But you know that.

[jeff47]

41. Well, she said that now

Would you really expect her to come out and say "no, my bosses are idiots?"

Besides, enforcing the rule on KO is a very stupid and clumsy way of announcing the rules now apply.

[Strelnikov_]

29. wink, wink n/t

[Slit Skirt]

38. I don't know...does he get bonus points for dead interns?