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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 01:10 AM Original message |
'Lesson 1: If you’re going to let yourself be characterized as liberal, you damn well better be one' |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
1. HELL YEAH! |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 01:19 AM Response to Original message |
2. K&R |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 01:19 AM Response to Original message |
3. I can see that he's really disappointed some people. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 01:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. You're absolutely right. And the article writer is absolutely correct. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 03:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. I liked him very much also. I so wanted him to succeed. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 10:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
83. Boy Oh Boy... You Said It For Me! After THIS Election I've Been Trying To |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 09:56 PM Response to Reply #83 |
119. What to do? Howard Dean 2012, a true Democrat. |
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LibraLiz1973 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #10 |
92. I think if he wants to be elected again, he needs to realize that. |
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pezDispenser (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #92 |
103. If he wants to get elected again... |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. Self Delete--Dupe. |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. That pretty well describes my history with this too. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 07:58 AM Response to Reply #22 |
67. Corporate Friendly, Complicity - |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 09:31 AM Response to Reply #3 |
79. The true believers add insult to injury |
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WVRICK13 (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 09:39 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. He Alienated His Base |
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rhiannon55 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #81 |
95. "When you don't give your base what you promised |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
88. I'm glad to see you are understanding what we are feeling, and more willing to listen. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
108. And I'm just so glad that you're being completely sincere for once. |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
5. Have the name, just as well have the game. |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
6. They called him 'far left' no matter what he did. |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 01:54 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. He should show them what Far Left is, and people will see just |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 07:30 AM Response to Reply #7 |
64. +100 |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 02:07 AM Response to Original message |
8. obama has willingly cooperated with republican bullying by going along with it. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 02:19 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. +1 |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 08:15 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. +2 |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. +3 |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 06:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. +4 |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 10:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
27. +5 |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 11:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. +6 |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 11:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
30. +7 nt |
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Gold Metal Flake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 01:00 AM Response to Reply #8 |
33. +8 |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 01:49 AM Response to Reply #8 |
35. +9 |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 02:05 AM Response to Reply #8 |
37. +10 |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 03:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
46. +11 |
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a2liberal (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 04:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
50. +12 |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 05:08 AM Response to Reply #8 |
53. Plus 13 nt |
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The Uncola (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 08:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
70. +14 |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 09:00 AM Response to Reply #8 |
72. +15 |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 09:31 AM Response to Reply #8 |
78. +16 |
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de novo (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
84. Plus me. |
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SaveOurDemocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
115. ...and me. + |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 05:24 AM Response to Original message |
11. If you're going to pay the piper, you might as well dance. n/t |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 06:08 AM Response to Original message |
12. K&R |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
13. Fucking right. He let his opponents define him, and abandoned |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 11:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. But he's like his many mouthpieces; the more they're proven wrong, the more |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
14. dead-on assessment |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
15. K&R |
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WVRICK13 (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 09:42 AM Response to Reply #15 |
82. Is Our President Insane? |
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rhiannon55 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #82 |
96. I have strongly supported him, but now I wonder... |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
17. Perfectly nailed. k & r nt |
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Howler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
18. Spot On!!!! K/R n/t |
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Naturyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
20. K&R. We've taken the full beating for liberal government without getting any of it. |
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TriMera (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
24. That's not all. |
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Gold Metal Flake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 01:01 AM Response to Reply #24 |
34. +1 |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 05:10 AM Response to Reply #24 |
54. Maybe that was all part of the BIG plan. |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 09:02 AM Response to Reply #54 |
73. The possibility can't be dismissed |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
25. I never bought what he was selling |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
90. Sadly, I am there with you. |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
26. Yep |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
28. Pretty much correct. nt |
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Shrader (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-06-10 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
32. Agreed n/t |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 01:58 AM Response to Original message |
36. That doesn't make any sense. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 02:08 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Then he needs to say it. I am not a liberal, I am a (whatever he is) |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 02:09 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Like how he says he's a Christian and some people still don't believe him? |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 02:12 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Point taken, but it would sure help. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 02:55 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Interestingly, he has reaffirmed his religious leanings multiple times... |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 03:29 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Another good point. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 05:11 AM Response to Reply #44 |
55. Hey, good thinkin'....nt |
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trud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 05:45 AM Response to Reply #44 |
57. one reason for being demonstrably religious |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 06:19 AM Response to Reply #44 |
60. He did write a book about them you know. |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #39 |
89. everyone else |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. You mean those wishy-washy independents? |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #94 |
105. Not really |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 02:11 AM Response to Original message |
40. This is exactly why we MUST primary the guy from the left. We have no choice. NT |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 02:52 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Sadly, that will probably have the same outcome as it did in 79... |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 03:26 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. I know. My ideal scenario |
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a2liberal (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 04:39 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. The problem with that is |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #43 |
91. That's what you are going to get, primary or no. |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 10:49 PM Response to Reply #43 |
121. What history book are you smoking? |
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countrydad58 (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 09:17 AM Response to Reply #40 |
76. Agreed! |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 02:51 AM Response to Original message |
42. No offense, but Obama never really has stated that he is a liberal, has he? |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 03:28 AM Response to Reply #42 |
47. He said he was anti-war, pro single-payer, and anti-torture/rendition, and would close GITMO. Ooops. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 05:45 AM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Not to mention a "fierce advocate" for gays and lesbians |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 05:48 AM Response to Reply #47 |
58. Big Ooops n/t |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #47 |
93. He never made any claims about poverty, did he? After Edwards left the race, the word was |
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rainlillie (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 02:13 PM Response to Reply #47 |
100. Obama NEVER said he was "anti-war" he said he was against "stupid wars" |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 09:33 PM Response to Reply #100 |
116. Then why are we still in Iraq? Oil? Or just to profit from the war itself? |
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rainlillie (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-10 01:48 AM Response to Reply #116 |
126. I was just correcting a post above that inarticulately stated he was "anti-war". |
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Matt Shapiro (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #47 |
102. Actually he didn't. |
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pezDispenser (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 03:43 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. +1 |
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Gin Blossom (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-10 12:22 AM Response to Reply #102 |
123. Great analysis. |
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trud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 05:50 AM Response to Reply #42 |
59. had I had any idea |
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rainlillie (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #42 |
98. I knew when I voted for Obama he wasn't a liberal, Therefore I wasn't |
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rainlillie (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #42 |
99. ITA! Well said. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #42 |
117. I agree with you, liberation |
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southmost (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 03:52 AM Response to Original message |
49. and i'm not talking about |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 05:04 AM Response to Original message |
52. Kerry Eleveld knows why we are pissed off. |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 07:03 AM Response to Original message |
61. Another nutless Democrat |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 07:06 AM Response to Original message |
62. If you're gonna be charged, tried, convicted and sentenced beforehand |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 07:21 AM Response to Original message |
63. Touche, K&R |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
65. Shit, too late to rec, so I'll just kick it. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
66. Shit, too late to rec, so I'll just kick it. |
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Mason Dixon (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
68. Umm. That's not what happened |
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The Uncola (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 08:45 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. You, just like Obama... |
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Mason Dixon (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 09:18 AM Response to Reply #71 |
77. umm I think |
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The Uncola (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 09:32 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Mea culpa.. |
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The Uncola (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
69. Looks like I'm too late to rec this... |
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somone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
74. Yep - and don't insult the people who brung ya |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
75. Killing us softly. |
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cate94 (573 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
85. Can't rec this |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
86. K & R nt |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
87. and who's gonna be our Sarah Palin? |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
97. As good a way to put it as I've seen. Obama could be Reagan's 2d Coming & they'd call it "Marxism." |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
101. Kick. |
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Ramulux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
106. If he doesnt get this |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
107. "Liberal" is a dirty word now |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. My rephrase - |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #110 |
118. You don't get to call them enemies after you work THAT hard to get them elected. n/t |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
109. Exceptionally well put. |
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saorsa (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
111. Yes! Brilliant stuff, well put |
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NuclearDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
112. Damn straight I'm a liberal |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
113. Right on Bluebear! |
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Soylent Brice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
114. DUH statement of our generation. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
120. To late to recommend. |
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foxfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-10 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
122. Kick. |
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HowHasItComeToThis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-10 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
124. OBAMA NEVER WAS A LIBERAL |
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Creideiki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-10 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
125. Why couldn't the straight people come out and vote? |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-10 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
127. BUMP |
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