IMO Democrats in the House paid a huge price because of Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson.

[Toots]

There were many many many very good Liberal Bills passed in the House that died in the Senate because of those two men..They couldn't even be brought up because they said they would side with the Republicans in a filibuster. Democrats all across the nation were turned off not because of the Liberal policies of Pelosi but because of those two men and sometimes Blanche Lincoln and a couple of others stopping any and all Liberal legislation.. What the voters wanted in 2006 and 2008 was not for two supposed Democrats to stop all legislation, or have it watered down to the point of being useless if not actually harmful for Democrats..Our biggest enemies over the last two years have not been Republicans. They are predictable. We know what their agenda is and they make no bones about it. No it is allowing Ben Nelson and Joe Lieberman to Chair important committees and to side with the Republicans at virtually every opportunity..IMO we can put the entire blame on the Democrats rout on those two individuals..and yet both will keep their leadership positions and continue with their treachery...with the aid and support of Obama...

[OHdem10]

1. If you are Blue Dog, Centrist, Ben Nelson and the Republicans

approach you with this Proposition: I see you are up for
Re-election in 2012. You see what happened to Blue Dogs
and Centrist this time. Would you like to know You Will
Not be targeted, in fact if you do the right thing here
and now, no strong candidate will challenge you--what
would you do??? Of course the right thing in this scenario
is vote with the Republican Party on their issues.
(A Large Number of Democratic Senators are up for
Election next time.)

It was more than Ben Nelson and Lieberman.

Politics is a serious game and hardball is played.