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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 12:02 PM
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bu$h* on waterboarding: 'Damn right'




Though Bush confirms that he knew the use of waterboarding would one day become public, and acknowledges that it is "sensitive and controversial," he asserts that "the choice between security and values was real," and expresses firm confidence in his decision. "Had I not authorized waterboarding on senior al Qaeda leaders, I would have had to accept a greater risk that the country would be attacked. In the wake of 9/11, that was a risk I was unwilling to take," he writes.

Bush further declares that the new techniques proved effective, yielding information on al Qaeda's structure and operations, and leading to the capture of Ramzi bin al Shibh, the logistical planner of the 9/11 attacks who was captured on the first anniversary of 9/11.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/05/bush.book/index.html?hpt=T2


IT'S NOT SENSITIVE AND CONTROVERSIAL IT'S ILLEGAL

junior will be selling this load of shit on the oprah show this tuesday....now there's something to boycott
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 12:06 PM
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1. Not prosecuting for war crimes was a signal that there is no justice in the U.S.
...anything goes - the criminals are proud and boastful about their crimes.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 12:07 PM
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3. and profiting off it. what encouragement for future terrorists.
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Denninmi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 12:07 PM
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2. Well, I would say he deserves a taste of his own medicice.
But, waterboarding him would be pointless, as their is absolutely no "intelligence" to be drained from the man. What little may have been there to start with pretty much got taken down by the coke binges back in the 80's.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 12:08 PM
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4. In a decent society, someone would be waiting to arrest him
when he gets there. I love the excuses about 'war crimes would be hard to prosecute because you have to have evidence'.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 12:09 PM
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5. i guess his confession wouldn't help?
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 12:53 PM
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11. I would think a self-confessed war criminal should be easy to
prosecute, but if he ever was arrested, his lawyers would make a motion to 'quash the evidence' claiming it would influence the jurors. I doubt that would work though.

Otoh, if he was tried in this country and insisted he was just looking out for us, millions of people here would be rooting for him, thanking him, calling the rest of us 'traitors'.

He is very confident that he will not be prosecuted. I had no idea how safe a war criminal could be in this country, so long as he's on our side. I thought we had laws once upon a time.

I guess there is some unwritten law somewhere on high, where both parties have agreed that no U.S. president or high official will ever be subject to those laws.

Our only recourse therefore, is to make life as miserable for them as possible, never letting them forget their crimes. Which is why I like what Code Pink does, and what was done to Tony Blair, (he had to stop promoting his book) in Britain and IReland.

The evidence is there, but it will not be used against him.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 12:10 PM
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6. truly toxic
Looking forward my ass. Looking forward to more and worse criminality right around the corner, I guess.
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Clyde39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 12:11 PM
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7. Scary thought----millions of people supported this "man"
His arrogance is overwhelming!
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 12:12 PM
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8. Besides, Cheney told him to do it
bush would rather admit to being a war criminal than tell the truth - that he was the vice president's sock puppet.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 12:15 PM
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10. You mean cheney had his hand up bush's ass
and was moving his mouth??
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 12:14 PM
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9. "the choice between security and values"
Abandoning values to defend them.

It just doesn't make sense.
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