Olbermann fiasco points out why we lose

[Doctor_J]

It took only two days for the GOP to start the purge of "troublesome people", as Michael Parenti says. My own teabagger-elect has already said that his aim is to make the president spend the next two years trying to prove that he was really born in the US. Every last Obama admin member will need hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees over the next two years.

Meanwhile, Nancy refused to prosecute actual crimes of the last president, including war crimes, treason, and malfeasance in the US attorney firings - crimes that would have been a slam dunk to convict. And, of course, after the voters unmistakably said they wanted wingers out of the decision-making process in 2008, the president acquiesced to their every demand.

We are weak (refuse to do anything more than sign petitions) and our leaders are weak.

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. It is but a symptom

also we refuse to use... fear in campaigns, and try to make nuanced arguments.

That shit don't work with the box of rocks that is the US electorate.

[Nostradammit]

2. Fuck that. We are not weak - we are hobbled by our ethics.

How easy it would be to rule the world if one had no empathy for others.

[ThomCat]

5. Refusing to prosecute people in the Bush Administration

was not because of ethical constraints. That was a pure lack of backbone.

Of course, in order to prosecute the Bush people for their crimes, the Obama administration would have to stop doing the same shit.

[movonne]

7. Oh believe me the makeover on bush is coming...getting rid of

the nasty liberals is part of it..all news will be how wonderful bush and cheney was for our country...after all look where the money went right to the top...hang in there we are going for a ride we are not going to like..I would not doubt that in a few years they will hunt down liberals like they did to the jews and liberals in germany...

[Nostradammit]

10. Maybe it's a matter of nomenclature.

To be quite honest, I don't consider "we" to include the Obama administration.

[Naturyl]

3. You're not wrong.

I personally am not weak, but the "progressive" movement as a whole definitely is. I get a kick out of the petitions and what-not. Some people enjoy imagining that if there are a million names on a petition, the right somehow has to magically meet our demands. The reality, of course, is that they don't care if every living human being and a few Martians sign a petition. They are still going to stick to their guns, which is something we generally have no clue how to do.

As much as I hate their politics (and I do), I sometimes have to admire their strength. We sure don't have any left. The days of FDR and MLK are long-gone.

[pretzel4gore]

4. maybe it's nature -culling a bad buncha genes from future humanity(?)

maybe the ecology knows a flaw in the works and knows there's no future unless mister pig is shot and fed to survivors, asap. Mister pig looks/act invincible, but maybe GOD hates a brutish violent cranky stooge who lies so much he can't even recognise truth, even when it's in his own best interest!
iow, no shortcut to salvation.
We gotta hit bottom. The pig has got to be put down. No choice. It's nature (or 'God' if one believes in that stuff)

[Xicano]

6. "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised"

n/t

[TheKentuckian]

8. Worse we (as a group) take pride in our weakness and celebrate our lack of convictions

[PassingFair]

12. "Celebrate our lack of conviction (s)"

It's called PRAGMATISM.

FYI!

:sarcasm:

[Doctor_J]

13. No shit. Check out this self-parody

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9501127

I keep hoping that before I die or pack up and leave, enough reality-based Dems and libs can get organized and do some serious damage to the power structure. But threads like that one make me severely doubt.

[The Backlash Cometh]

9. I know. Here we go again. The Republicans bare their teeth just like they

did to Clinton. Meanwhile, the Democrats shake, wondering how to keep the Repubs happy.

We warned them.

[pnorman]

11. "Nancy refused to prosecute actual crimes of the last president..."

Had she done so and had Obama only grown a spine and become a Unitary President, the RW Talk Machine would have been cowed into silence! (I won't bother with the sarcasm smilie here).

[DaveinJapan]

15. What do you think they'd have said that they didn't say anyway over the last 2 years?

On noes, he's a Socialist! check

Worse than Hitler! check

Needs to be stopped! check



That's the part that really frustrates the crap out of me, they made it clear from DAY ONE that they would attack him with all they had, so why not ignore them and get some real progress made.

It wouldn't have made a lick of difference in terms of what they had to say about him or the Democrats, nor would it have affected the election much if at all (how much more trounced could he have been!?).

[orwell]

14. Another circular firing squad?

...Wasn't it just 2 years ago that everyone was crowing about the permanent demise of the Republican party?

(Welcome to Short Attention Span Theater, otherwise known as America the Beautiful...)

It's pretty simple. 9.6% unemployment won't get it done.