Thom said last week that this election was a test for CorpAmerica flexing their new muscles.

[rhett o rick]

Those were not his words. Forgive me for not having a link. What I heard him say was that CorpAmerica (my term) were seeing how far they could go with their hit ads, who they should back (apparently not former witches), how much money they need to spend on campaigns and on negative campaigns, etc.

I think the same holds true with the KO action. Just how far can they push?

[ananda]

1. I think they can push as far as they want now.

They own everybody and everything that matters.

[DireStrike]

3. Once they start thinking like that, they lose.

Everything must be subjected to a cost-benefit analysis. They aren't stupid. Just powerful, greedy, and evil.

[rhett o rick]

4. I am not sure they can lose. There is need to figure the most cost effective way of

looting but I dont see anyway to stop them. They dont need us. They need our cash/property which they have been very successful at stealing ($1.5 trillion to the banks in one fell swoop). The have been systematically selling our companies and infrastructure to foreign interests. They need our natural resources which they seem to be doing a good job of stealing already.

They own and control our government and military. How can they lose?

[Doctor_J]

7. And media

Granted the outlook is bleak to the point of desperation, but maybe not entirely hopeless. Read The Turner Diaries, or The Iron Heel. The viewpoints are antipodal (London was a Socialist), but there might be nuggets of useful information.

[DireStrike]

10. Oh, they won't lose to us

They'll lose to another gang of more effective criminal rulers.

An utter failure on behalf of the ruling class is one of only many things that have to occur for us to win.

[rhett o rick]

11. I agree. The fat-cats will be devoured by fatter-cats. nm

[Doctor_J]

2. They will continue to push until there is some serious pushback

and I am not talking about petitions

[rhett o rick]

5. The overlords just demonstrated what will happen if you push back. KO is an example.

A vio lent uprising of any kind will only give them to excuse to remove more of our rights.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. Well every time the people in this country

have gotten positive change, some folks have died.

That is the truth.

You telling me that this time we will get those rights by sitting at home?

It WILL take people in the street... the question is how long until people figure that there is nothing else to lose?

My view is that we are getting closer every day to that moment, and no, the revolution will not be televised. The paper of record never does anyway.

[rhett o rick]

8. I must have done a terrible job getting the message across if you think

that I somehow said "You telling me that this time we will get those rights by sitting at home?" Of course not.

It is my opinion, and please convince me otherwise, that the overlords have too much power.
But first of all, since the overlords own all the media, the American people will be manipulated into believing it's the Jews (oops, that's been done), or some minority or Iran or whatever, that is responsible for their pain. This is an easy message for the gullibles to swallow because they refuse to believe that they are part of the problem by supporting the same overlords that are killing them. This last election is evidence that the American public thinks that the overlords deserve support.

And if we go to the streets what would we burn? Our homes? The shut down factories? How can we hurt them? They will use the military if Blackwater isnt enough.

We have no leverage or resources to fight them. Once we were important as labor and consumers.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. That;s the problem you think there is no way out

and yes people will rise, and it will not be televised... and yes people WILL die, and yes Blackwater will come into this picture, but those kinds of revolutions mean people die, every time.

Of course we could play the same dirty poo they play... with bumper stickers... but the people in DC find that unseemly. That would be a GOOD start actually.

[rhett o rick]

13. If you see a way out please share. Going to the streets isnt enough. We need a leader, a strategy

and tactics. I am looking for someone that will help develop a strategy and specific tactics.

For example, we could put some direct pressure on our legislators by sitting in their offices until they listen to us. Bumper stickers is a great idea, eg. "Join the War on Greed". We need to become less dependent on them but buying locally, conserving, and going green.

I dont rule out civ il dis obed ience. But marches that get no ones attention are worse that worthless.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Leaders will emerge

like they always do.

But not from the party. That is the same elite invested in keeping things they are.

Oh and marches never get attention... the paper of record ignores marches... that is why we NEED to build an alternate press.

If Americans were not as A-historical as they are. they'd get this. But Americans do NOT know history... only myth... and the American creed is just that... myth...

[rhett o rick]

17. Well they better hurry. How low can we sink before we pass the tippping point? nm

[mstinamotorcity]

12. Until we STOP feeding

that ugly beast we can expect no change. Why should we expect anything different when we keep doing the same thing?????

[rhett o rick]

15. Hard to stop feeding the beast when it is a vampire. nm

[mstinamotorcity]

16. Not Hard If You Are Not Scared To Change.

Most people were looking for change in the way Washington operates. When are we going to change the way we operate. Vampires are legendary folklore. They really don't exist ( I know you that,not being sarcastic)only the perception that it may be a possibility is what people want to believe. Like Washington changing. There is the possibility, but highly unlikely.It is set up to see people fail. And as soon as you get the game straight they change the rules. The only way to get it right is to design some new rules to a new game. And play with friends of your choosing instead of those they choose for you.