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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:28 PM
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Poll question: The annual time change poll
Edited on Sat Nov-06-10 08:34 PM by Texasgal
Do you agree with the change from daylight saving?
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:29 PM
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1. All I know is that it takes me a week to adjust to it. n/t
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:33 PM
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7. Personally, I've never understood it
seems antiquated!
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:36 PM
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10. Its a safety issue related to the morning school busses and daylight.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:40 PM
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11. We don't have school buses anymore
Kids walk 3 miles to school here.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:55 PM
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15. Yikes. That is a long hike.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 07:40 AM
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39. Maybe not. The idea, according to this link, was conceived by
Ben Franklin. No school bus routes then.

http://www.webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/b2.html
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:30 PM
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2. I don't like daylight savings to begin with
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:30 PM
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3. Putting the entire country in jet lag is a bad idea, IMHO.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:31 PM
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4. i'm in arizona. we don't
go onto daylight savings time. tomorrow i'll have to remember that it's a 2 hour difference when i call family back east.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:32 PM
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5. i hate dst
:(
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:32 PM
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6. FYI: It's "Daylight Saving" not "Daylight Savings." n/t
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:34 PM
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8. OOPS!
Thanks! I'll change... slang is a mo'fo!
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:35 PM
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9. I abhor the fall DST change.
So depressing for it to be dark at 4:30pm. I get the am schoolbus/safety argument, but - blah.

Takes me a week or 2 to adjust.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:42 PM
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12. I feel more tired - when it gets dark early.
Have heard the arguments for whatever acronym (SAD?) they've assigned it, but it's not just sun deficit - it's dark damnit and dark means the day is over. For me anyway and I can't get more things done.

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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 09:00 PM
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17. Yep - Seasonal Affective Disorder. I get it every year.
I actually use a special light to read by to keep it at bay this time of year. If I didn't, I would never get out of bed.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 09:13 PM
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18. It really works?
May have to look into that. I don't know - it may be my head thinks it's dark, time to stop working, relax a little and go to bed.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 10:17 PM
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21. For me, yes - it did.
My Doc recommended http://www.fullspectrumsolutions.com which is who I use.

Best wishes to you. Next week is going to suck for alot of us...
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 10:23 PM
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22. Thanks for the link, I'll check it out. nt
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 10:27 PM
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23. It came from trial and error from his wife
Their lamps apparently brought her back from the abyss (she relocated from India to the grey Northeast US). I can vouch for their effectiveness when used 45 mins or so every morning before starting the day and can tell the difference on days I don't.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 10:30 PM
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27. I see they also have energy saving bulbs
for regular lamps. I may try a few of those, too. Being green and happy, now there's a winning combo.
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 10:27 PM
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24. I recommend that site too.
What turned out to be almost as helpful as the desk lamp is the light-based alarm clock (I think I got them both in some sort of package deal). Waking up to gradually increasing brightness instead of BEEP-BEEP-BEEP is a much less stressful start to the day!

I try to use the lamp for at least a couple hours each evening when I get home from work...making the effective "sunset" for me about the same time year-round. It really has helped.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 10:31 PM
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Ok, I'm sold - two recommendations from fellow
DU'ers I can't refuse. DU is my first goto place for everything.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 10:37 PM
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31. LOL! A convert. Where do I pick up my commission check?
:D

Just kidding. :)

I hope you find new energy and good health with your investment into your well being, friend. These lamps are not cheap, but I am living proof that they truly can change your life - especially if you are a south-to-north transplant.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 10:42 PM
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34. I'm transplanted north to south ;)
I remember now that my elderly next door neighbor (80ish) had one. I was friends with her and I could also see it from my window in her living room. Her daughter is a Pharmacist and she bought it for her mother. Just remember that a few minutes ago, duh. It's an age thingy ;) at 61, help us all in a few more years.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 11:01 PM
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35. Hey - you ID'd the question and reached out to DU for suggestions to consider!
It took me almost 10 years before discussing this with my Doc (whose immediate response was that his wife (also an MD) finally found relief via the lamp.......)

It is only a 'dumb' question if it is unasked!

So what else you got? :D
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 11:52 PM
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36. Real women ask for help. Funny that men
Edited on Sat Nov-06-10 11:54 PM by madmax
Rubydrive around for days without stopping to ask for directions. I stop the second I even think I may be lost and ask anyone, anywhere.

Now they have GPS so they don't have to ask. My cell (I only use for texting) hearing problem and I hear blah, blah something but, pffft. I'll back end someone looking at this map.

I haven't been embarrassed since I p'd my seat in second grade. So it's not a problem for me to reach out. I'm like AT&T I reach out and touch someone. Sometimes that can be dangerous :evilgrin:

What else do I got? :think: How much time do you have. :rofl:

“Ruby, I think this is the start of a beautiful friendship.” Bogart - Casablanca :toast:

Ok, I took some artistic liberty and switched Louis to Ruby. Works for me.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:25 AM
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37. ROFL!
You are a RIOT!

I got all the time in the world, Bogey. I'm listening. :D :D
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 10:31 PM
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29. Thank you for chiming in, friend.
They are truly a lifesaver to those of us sensitive to the lack of sun and time changes.

:toast:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:47 PM
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13. We all need more vitamin D. So daylight savings is bad.
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 10:29 PM
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25. How do you figure? DST makes it light when people are actually out and about.
It's Standard Time that would make it light at 5 am during the summer when very few people are awake to take advantage of it.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 10:36 PM
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30. Okay I was listening to someone on the news who said there was more access to vitamin D
Edited on Sat Nov-06-10 10:37 PM by applegrove
without daylight savings but I wasn't really listening. I'm probably wrong.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:49 PM
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14. Other: against standard time and call for another hour forward as well.
It is light for the kids for like 2 weeks and the day shrinks and those bus stops are dark again.

Give them and the rest of us some light after school and getting home.
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Denninmi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 09:28 PM
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19. Completely agree.
Here in Michigan, we are lucky to be on the western end of the "Eastern Time Zone" My particular location is 34 minutes behind Standard Time by the sun -- in other words, the sun isn't directly overhead at its Solar Noon zenith until 12:34 pm EST, or 1:34 PM EDT.

The effect of this is to shift our daylight 34 minutes behind the official clock time in winter, or 1 hour and 34 minutes in summer. It means that we have 34 more minutes of daylight in the evening than someone at the same latitude and living on the center line of the time zone, which is the imaginary north-south line where where Solar Noon is equal to clock Noon . This line, by the way, is centered on NYC, which, while not exactly at the geographic center of the time zone, because it is often set for political rather than geographic reasons, just as time zones in general are, is at the center of the time zone by solar noon.

Anyone east of this line has their daylight shifted towards the morning, the opposite of DST. Luckily, not as many people live east of the line -- the furthest east is in parts of Maine, where they are about +25 minutes ahead of Solar Noon. Anyone to the west of this imaginary line has their days shifted later, which effectively shifts their daylight towards the evening.

So, in the summer at its latest time in late June, my sunset is 9:13 pm EDT, while the person in eastern Maine saw their sun set 62 minutes earlier at 8:11 pm EDT. In winter, the earliest sunset here around the winter solstice is at 4:57 pm. Which is way too early for my taste. I would be even more unhappy to live where the sun set at 3:55 pm!

The flip side of this, is that the person in Maine has way earlier sunrises than I do, which is fine if you get up at 4:30 in the morning in June, but most people don't do that.

I wish we would make DST year-round, I hate coming home in the dark at 5:00 pm in the winter.
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mercuryblues Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:55 PM
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16. Another
reason to be pissed at bush the boy who would be king. About 2 months after I invested in 2 alarm clocks that automatically change the time for DST, bush extended the DST. Now they automatically change on the old dates, so I have to reset them. A week later I have to change them again.

I hate the time change. I can see the need for the AM bus, but the kids get out of school between 3:00 and 4:00. How much sunlight do they see? None, by the time homework is finished. No time to ride their bikes or throw a ball. Is it any wonder why we have high child obesity rates?
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 09:39 PM
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20. You get an extra hour to sleep or go out drinking...
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caty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 10:30 PM
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26. I say this every year, to no avail......
Set our clocks back 30 minutes and then leave them at that time. No more "fall back" or "spring forward". Split the difference and never reset the time again.

It just seems like common sense to me. :shrug:
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 10:30 PM
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28. One of the very few things Bush did that I liked was extending DST for one week in the fall
and starting it three weeks earlier in the spring.
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 10:37 PM
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32. Um, your poll is bass ackwards
We are going back to Standard Time, which is the norm. Daylight Savings time is an aberration, and artificial contrivance to give us extra daylight in the summer months. If we stayed on DST all year round, some places would not see the rising of the sun in the winter months until 9 or 9:30 AM because of the shortening of the days during the winter
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 10:41 PM
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33. Let me clarify my remarks
The poll question should read "to daylight saving time", since we are changing our Standard Time.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:38 AM
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38. Dammit, I want American TIme!!!
Edited on Sun Nov-07-10 03:39 AM by OmahaBlueDog
No more of these namby-pamby time changes in the lower 48. Here's what we do on July 4th, 2011, at 2PM East Coast Time:

Every one in the Eastern Time Zone turns their clock back an hour and a half. It is now 12:30
Every one in the Central Time Zone turns their clock back half an hour. It is now 12:30
Every one in the Mountain Time Zone turns their clock ahead half an hour. It is now 12:30
Every one in the Pacific Time Zone turns their clock ahead an hour and a half. It is now 12:30

Congratulations - the lower 48 are all on the same time zone. We will then proceed to say the Pledge of Allegiance, sing a rousing chorus of "God Bless America" and never worry about time zones, springing forward, or falling back ever again.

You folks in Alaska and Hawaii - just add an hour and a half to American time, and you'll be fine. You are still free to say the pledge and sing.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 09:09 PM
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40. I just want all my clocks to change themselves....
:yoiks:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 09:10 PM
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41. I HATE IT!
eom
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Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 09:17 PM
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42. Every year, I hate it
Twice a year my body gets really screwed up by the change. I really wish they'd leave it one way or the other, preferably DST because I hate it when it gets dark at flippin 5 o'clock. I wouldn't care that it stayed dark longer in the morning; I've never been much of a morning person anyway... It just depresses me somewhat when it gets dark so early in the afternoon.
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