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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:00 AM
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Poll question: If you were czar of Democratic Party strategy, you would:
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:09 AM
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1. Kick for better sample size (edit: oh, it started halfway down the forum due to DST)
Edited on Sun Nov-07-10 01:15 AM by jpgray
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:29 AM
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2. Focus like a laser beam on jobs jobs jobs.
Everything follows from there.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:57 AM
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3. Who do we train this laser upon?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:05 AM
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4. We need to incentivize hiring any way we can.
And we focus on business of course.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:07 AM
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5. By raising demand, yeah? How do we raise demand to provide > 150,000 jobs a month?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:19 AM
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7. Tax credit equal to the amount they would have collected in extended unemployment
Edited on Sun Nov-07-10 02:21 AM by dkf
Plus a payroll tax holiday. They could only get this credit for employees in excess of current hires. This would be valid for two years or when the unemployment rate hits 8%.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:27 AM
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8. Politically, that would need to be a GOP proposal to work
It's bizarre--even tax cuts and credits will be pilloried for their deficit-adding qualities if they come from the Democrats. Witness the stimulus, right? This is only to deny credit where it would be deserved, but it's strangely effective.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:33 AM
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9. Yet isn't it neutral because we wouldn't be paying the unemployment?
The social security holiday would be pretty minimal too.
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paulflorez Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:49 AM
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10. YES! Dems need to be about JOBS!
If they focus on jobs, then GOP attempts to make 2011- 2012 about HCR will come off as beating a dead horse, and not even an important dead horse.

HCR was important in 2009 - 2010. 2011 - 2012 will be about jobs. Dems need to get job creation as high as possible and get unemployment to start ticking down. If Americans see unemployment ticking down, it will make a huge difference. Dems will need to sell sell sell the jobs agenda and sell sell sell any noteworthy progress like high monthly job creation and ticking down of unemployment. They also need to call Republicans on their shit. GOP will try to claim credit for any progress even though they won't get a simple job related issue accomplished, Democrats need to call them on this.
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:10 AM
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6. I didn't vote in this survey but have a comment.
The problem is that neo-liberals and neo-conservatives and their respective lackeys have co-opted the parties for class war and violent empire that has chose survival of the fittest in an over-populated and degraded planet ecology. Both neos are sides of a 21st century corporatist and globalist fascism that leads to inefficient social and biologic ecologies.

Most of the people are pawns or excess.

Conscious or not, Obama has been a facilitator.

I think we need to get back to our communities, out of war, and work on clean and efficient energy.

I could share some radical thoughts but I am not the radical in fact (too old and health-limited anyway).

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:51 AM
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11. Create a true opposition party.
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paulflorez Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:03 AM
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12. I don't think 1 and 2 are mutually exclusive
If you choose a few progressive goals that are populist as well (no tax cuts for rich, repeal DADT, shrinking too-big-to-fail banks) in the short term, then you can win a majority and push additional progressive goals in the long term.

Angle, O'Donnell, Buck, Raese all lost because they were too "pure.". Do we really want to emulate that side? I think the "pure" ones who slipped through the cracks will get kicked out for being too far from the center. You can't get too far from your base either. It's a delicate balance.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:04 AM
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13. I'd start here:
New Deal 2.0 | A Project of the Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt Institute

It's all there, in these two sites. The ideas, the scholars, and the history we built once and can build again.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:37 AM
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14. Work to build class consciousness while destabilizing the existing national political system
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