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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 12:15 PM
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Brace yourselves, guys. The right-wing are trying to take-over the mainstream media.
Just prior to the Bush years, the Orlando Sentinel went hard right. It was probably there all along, I just noticed it when they came out against Bill Clinton even before the evidence had been presented by Kenneth Starr. The paper, unfortunately, did not report on everything that impacted a community which is why a lot of strange fiefdoms sprouted along the I-4 corridor, and still are in control to this day. However, I had a feeling that it was becoming freer when, in the last two years, they allowed free expression on the Reader's Forums. That, however, has been changing. The paper has been deleting posts in a manner that suggests that we're going back to the days of stifling the thoughts, ideas and expressions that make the right uncomfortable.

This is why I said that we need an on-line website to express our views, because, once the local papers take our voice away it's because a right-wing operation is underway. If it's happening here, it's happening elsewhere too.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 12:24 PM
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1. This has been in the works for decades.....and has a history going back to the Spanish American War
The media is much more pervasive now...and whatever regulations were put into effect have been dissolved. We are all screwed.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 12:25 PM
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2. I hear they're thinking about trying to take the House of Representatives, too. nt
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 12:25 PM
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3. Trying?
Where have you been?

The only "media" in America is the one that thinks news should be entertainment. There is not a single real news channel left in the US. I went to Europe for business a few months ago. I got more out of 2 hours of BBC news than I could in a month of American "news".

Jon Stewart was right, maybe wrong about the left being "as bad" but he was right that there is no news agency left dedicated to nothing but facts. It's all spun in one way or the other.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 12:26 PM
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4. They already have. That's why we need to support independent media
in any way we can.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 12:27 PM
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5. It is happening everywhere, and corporate interests are behind it, imho.

We must do something, something to provide FACTS and dispute all the lies and distortions.

What, I don't know...but we need to do something.

I posted this as a possible way to start turning over corporate rule (sorry for those who have seen me reference this several times...I don't mean to beat a dead horse but this issue underlies nearly everything, as I see it):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=9478876&mesg_id=9497601

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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 12:27 PM
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6. TRYING?!?!?!?!
They already have!
How much does Comcast own? How much does Fox own? How much does Clearchannel own?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 12:33 PM
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9. We have known this for so long, and, yet, we do nothing.
We need 50 on-line newsmedia, one for each state. People should be able to access news about their communities without worry that they information is being censored.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:26 PM
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33. Perhaps you have been doing nothing...
I have been pushing for a new Fairness Doctrine... One that has been sponsored by MY Congressman, Maurice Hinchey (D-NY22). Check it out here: http://hinchey.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=748&Itemid=122
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:28 PM
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35. Good cause.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 12:27 PM
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7. Is this a joke?
Repuke presidential candidates get 5 times the endorsements as Dems, and have for 40 years.

Pretty soon they will decide what gets put on the internets too. The game is over until we start inflicting some extensive damage on the owners and their sheep
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 12:29 PM
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8. I feel like I hit a time warp.
Am I 20 years younger? Cool, Do Over!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 12:34 PM
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10. I know what they're doing. If they manage to take our voices, they
can claim that THEY represent the mainstream. They have done it before.
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 06:19 PM
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41. I view the M$M today in much the same way Soviet citizens viewed Pravda
Deep down, you know a lot of what they're saying is bullshit.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 12:36 PM
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12. it's been more than a decade since they tried a coup against Clinton
The press cooperated in that coup attempt. That was the wakeup for a lot of Democrats about the press being an *actor* in political events. Involved. Not reporting, but acting in the events.

More than ten years. And I don't think we have made a lot of progress against them. What's that quote about evil existing when good people do nothing?
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:08 PM
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22. The internet will not be controlled
they aren't smart enough. Sure they are smart enough to try. But the truth is the smartest geeks, the hackers, pirates, programmers, will clean their fucking clocks. Republicans don't know piss all about anything. The only thing they know is money. They don't have the smarts or the desire to be better than I am on a computer. And I'm not all that good, I'm an amature compared to some of the guys I know, who tell me that there is no way in hell they will be able to stop us.

Sure Joe Schmoe on AOL will be fucked but the people who know, will be as free as they are today. Bank on that shit. Find yourself a hacker buddy, they are indispensable.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:32 PM
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27. Ineresting, and irrelevant
The 99% who don't have a friendly hacker will still be controlled by the corporate internets, just like they are now by TV and radio. I can listen to sane radio and watch sane TV too, but it's uselss because it's overwhelmed by the fascists channels. The same will be true of the internets once the corporations get ahold of it.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 12:35 PM
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11. Well, historically, most sinister movements HAVE started in the Orlando area.
Maybe you're on to something, there.

( :eyes: )
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 12:40 PM
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15. LOL!
Well, I had hoped others would be able to use this to be on the look out in their communities for the same signs.

I can't get over how, just a few years back, pundits like Tweety were claiming that the mainstream was conservative. Then Obama was voted in and, just as the left began to get momentum, suddenly everyone is so concerned about "strife."

Jon Stewart is concerned about strife, though his show revels in the conflict. You hear about it everywhere. Keep the tone down, they tell us. Don't you see, they're just trying to quiet the left side of the spectrum before we can build any traction, because once we're all silenced, they can go back to saying that the mainstream is conservative and continue with the foolish Republican policies which have brought this country to its knees.

This is just another maneuver.
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Yeshuah Ben Joseph Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:00 PM
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32. One of the most blatantly right wing media companies DOES have a huge presence in Orlando
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benlurkin Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 12:36 PM
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13. This is why the MSM is dying-they just don't know it yet
we have the internet, DU, to express our veiws. More people are turning to the net for their news and discussions.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 12:41 PM
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16. God bless, Skinner, Elad and Earl Grey.
May their children grow up to be the same visionary prophets as their fathers.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 12:38 PM
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14. Um, they TOOK OVER the MSM when Reagan repealed the Fairness Doctrine
nothing short of reinstating it will change a damn thing. Too bad half of DU is too young to remember.

And who bothers to read the Orlando Slantinel anymore?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 12:42 PM
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17. I'm afraid that I'm going to have to consider them lost, before too long.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 12:46 PM
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18. Too late.
By about 20 years.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 12:48 PM
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19. But we were beginning to make a comeback.
That's why everyone now wants us to tone it down. But if we do, the right goes unchallenged.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:10 PM
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23. In one or two generations MSM television media in its current format will be obsolete and...
after one more generation or so the internet or a hybrid of it will be the MSM.

We need to think along those lines and beat the Pukes to the punch relative to blogs, streaming video, and the like.

TYT, Bradblog, Huffingtonpost, etc will be the MSM when the current generation of 65+ is gone.

<http://www.theyoungturks.com/>

An online Countdown channel could evenually will replace the broadcast TV version.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 12:52 PM
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20. Trying??
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:00 PM
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21. With a few exceptions, it's already a done deal. nt
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:12 PM
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24. Think they already have....
They've certainly been working on it for the past 30+ years.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:30 PM
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25. One of the "SEVEN MOUNTIANS" they are "reclaiming" (SCARY)
Edited on Sun Nov-07-10 01:31 PM by ClayZ
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:30 PM
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26. TRYING? how about succeeded...
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:34 PM
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28. are there RW papers? Of course. Are most of them RW? Probably not
Edited on Sun Nov-07-10 01:36 PM by onenote
If most newspapers were RW, how does one explain the overwhelming support given by newspaper editorial boards to Obama over McCain?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper_endorsements_in_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2008

I should add that I think the media in general, newspapers included, have done a terrible job covering the Obama presidency.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:27 PM
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34. Oh yeah, like the NY Post! Right. n/t
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 06:11 PM
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39. your non-sequitur response was most enjoyable.
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 07:24 PM
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42. Because in a realistic political spectrum Obama is right wing
Im not talking about what passes for political spectrum here in the USA. Obama is just more what the owners needed at the moment.
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:53 PM
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29. We have to fight for the virtual commons,
it is the best way to gain our physical commons back, and they know it. They are taking over with crooked money, and that is what we have to fight them with.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:54 PM
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30. Um.. they did that a LONG time ago
:(

every so often they throw us a "bone" or two, so they can keep up that tired old "librul media" shit, but every media "employee" knows who signs their paycheck.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:56 PM
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31. it happened years back
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:28 PM
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36. This has been going on since Reagan was in office, not new.
They will come after the Internet next, the Rwingers are intent on controlling their LIE by establishing ways to keep REALITY out of the hands of voters.

'No news is good news' takes on a whole new meaning to Repukers. Beware.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:29 PM
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38. Okay, remind me why the USA owns the internet?
I would think that it would be in the interest of the global community to keep it open and safe for everyone.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:28 PM
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37. Objective being .....
to put a crater in the cultural memory.
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 06:15 PM
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40. They already have, IMHO
I watch television for entertainment only now; if I want news, I go on the Internet.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 07:26 PM
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43. I think they have succeeded at that (nt)
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 07:27 PM
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44. There is no such thing as the "liberal media".
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 07:35 PM
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45. The right wing own the media..Bill Clinton gave it to them with the Media Enhancement Act 1996.
Clear Channel owns all radio stations.. Murdoc own most of the TV and print..
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 11:56 PM
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46. Aren't you about 20 years behind ?
That happened long ago. Get with the program.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 11:35 AM
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47.  The corps own the right-wing.
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