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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:28 PM
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MSNBC will let Keith back on the air if he apologizes so says
Huffington Post. They say that MSNBC wants him to apoligize for contributing to the Democrats. www.Huffingtonpost.com
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:30 PM
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1. I hope he holds his ground.
Is Joe 'dead intern' Scar going to apologize for donating to Republicans?
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indy legend Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:30 PM
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2. I want you back Keith , but stand your ground. You owe no one an apology.
They owe you one. Demand it.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:31 PM
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3. "They say"...It will never happen...n/t
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:31 PM
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4. I don't care what job it is, if I had to apologize...
for something like what Olbermann did, I'd tell them to stick it up their collective asses.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:37 PM
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8. I'd apologize for $7 million
call me a whore but I do have my price. An apology is not the worst thing for all that money.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:41 PM
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11. I'd apologize for 30K
in this economy. ;O
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:56 PM
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23. Pitiful.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:37 PM
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39. Not as pitiful as trolling.
eom
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:30 PM
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47. You're right, it's not as pitiful as trolling.
It's actually a lot worse.

I'm not the one who's willing to sacrifice his values for $30K, if it ever came to that.

:eyes:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:31 PM
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48. Obviously violating company policy is not a value. Speaking out for those
who have little voice, is.
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:38 PM
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50. One can do that without having to sacrifice values.
Like going on youtube. Or something like that.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:43 PM
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51. Yes, I'm certain a brand new youtube career will be every bit
as beneficial to the country as having a voice on a major network. :eyes:
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 06:01 PM
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56. More people go on youtube.
Jus' sayin'.
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:56 PM
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22. You'd sell out your values for $7 million?
You can't put a price on your values.

And if you can, well, you're no better than THEY are.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:36 PM
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38. What good are his values if he doesn't have a voice? One can hold values dear
Edited on Sun Nov-07-10 03:38 PM by mzmolly
while apologizing for not being aware of a particular rule. His values should include continuing with his good works.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 07:35 PM
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58. Not what I said, I said I'd apologize for $7 million
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:52 PM
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20. Yes but you may be remote from the majority of people with jobs...
who must bow, scrape and pretend every day they're loving it for 30K per annum or less.

That being said, Olbermann shouldn't, but he will in some face-saving manner.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:34 PM
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5. Apologize for contributing to Democrats, or apologize for contributing
to Democrats without prior permission?
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:45 PM
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15. +1 My question exactly.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:01 PM
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28. My guess, BOTH.
.02
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:03 PM
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33. for contributing to dems--had he contributed to repukes, there would be no issue
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:39 PM
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42. Apologize for not being familiar with the fine print.
eom
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:52 PM
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54. exactly - it was a contract requirement to get prior approval.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:34 PM
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6. HuffPo is only repeating Politico's earlier story
The accuracy of the report is questionable...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:38 PM
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41. Huffpo is a news agregator
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:36 PM
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7. He owes no one an apology. They owe him one. He should do a Repub. apology.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:38 PM
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9. I think an apology is a great idea.
No matter how sincere he appears, nobody in their right mind will see anything but farce in his "remorse". Even the rethugs will know it's bulls***.
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:40 PM
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10. Keith's outside political activities have no bearing on his job.
So, he donated to some Democratic campaigns?

If we held that standard for all broadcasters, Fox News wouldn't have anyone to put on the air!

Keith has absolutely nothing to apologize for. MSNBC know who they hired. They know his standpoints. They also know he actually draws in viewers and if there aren't any viewers looking at their adverts in the breaks then the adverts are less valuable and advertisers can demand a discount for lack of exposure.

I smell a publicity stunt... to boost Olbermann's ratings.

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digitaln3rd Donating Member (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:02 PM
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29. If he's interviewing candidates that he donated to, then, yes..
It does have a bearing on his job.

You can't condemn Hannity for doing it but then turn around and ignore it when Olbermann does it.

And, yes, he did have those candidates that he donated to on his show without disclosing it.
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Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:44 PM
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12. That's BS. Keith owes no one an apology.
I want to see him back as much as anyone, but I also want him to stand his ground and not cave in. He should be demanding an apology from THEM.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:45 PM
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13. "I apologize for not being aware of every nuanced rule, in MSNBC's code of ethics rules."
;)
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:50 PM
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19. Actually, that sounds pretty good. He might add that since other employees did the same thing, it
never entered his mind that he could not do likewise.

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:34 PM
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37. I like your addition.
:hi:
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:45 PM
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14. He doesn't owe anyone an apology. They're just trying to make
Democrats accept a rule that republicans never have to obey.

Notice that Joe Scarborough doesn't have to apologize for his donations. He hasn't been suspended.

If KO gives in and apologizes that will be an admission that it's okay to have a double standard, one set of rules for democrats and other set of more lenient rules for republicans. There is nothing okay about that. Ever! x(
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:46 PM
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16. If that's true, it sounds like MSNBC is getting nervous and just
looking for a way out. With even the right saying their decision was wrong, it's hard for them to make a case for this stupid move.

They intended to get rid of him. If they did not, before the suspension, they could have pointed out to him that he should have asked permission, (which, btw their own rule doesn't require him to do unless there is a 'conflict of interest'), and asked him to do so in the future.

He is the most watched show on MSNBC, over one million viewers, before he came along their numbers were abysmal, mainly because of their previous firing of liberal voices.

If the rule is the one that has been published, then he did nothing wrong.

They could take the advice of all those, both left and right, review their murky rules, and apologize for jumping the gun, admitting that the rules were not clear, but will be from now on.

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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:46 PM
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17. He could say, "I am sorry if NBC was offended by my actions." nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:49 PM
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18. LOL. That's the ticket!
Edited on Sun Nov-07-10 02:49 PM by EFerrari
:)
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:58 PM
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25. I like it. nm
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:38 PM
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40. LMAO - the perfect solution! MSNBC is being very petty. -eom
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:56 PM
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46. I posted an emphatic NO but,
If Keith can deal with something like that, umm meh. Ok, I like the way it's phrased.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:52 PM
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21. it's the MSNBC that owes KO an apology and a big fucking raise
He brought the viewers with him, he can leave with the viewers.

So, no, KO has nothing to apologize for, but Phil Griffin owes him a big fucking apology and a resignation for even thinking of that up.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 02:57 PM
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24. And kowtow. nm
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:00 PM
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26. Of course they will, congratulations MSNBC for a successful viral marketing campaign
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:01 PM
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27. How he should apologize....
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:02 PM
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30. Can't we get a non-commercial station for people like Keith?
Fuck msnbc. Remove the leash, eliminate the commercials. It's simple, but more difficult.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:02 PM
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31. Apologize for not following protocol for donations? That would be easy
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:02 PM
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32. don't know the whole story
but if Keith O. didn't get permission his contract required, there is no harm in apologizing for a minor infraction of his contract... I trust Keith Olbermann will be wise enough to do what is best for himself.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:05 PM
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34. Did PolitiCO have someone with poor english write that? They are demanding him apologize for what???
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:06 PM
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35. Does anyone tune into MSNBC for Phil Griffin?
Cause I'm gonna guess no. He's banned and gotten rid of personalities that drew audiences. Really if anyone should be suspended from MSNBC it's Phil Griffin.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:11 PM
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36. Basically: How to fire Keith while claiming it's his fault...
:-(

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:40 PM
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43. As they say, the plot thickens
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:40 PM
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44. NO!!! nt
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:44 PM
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45. sorry i gave $50,000. could have given a lot more, but no, i gave $50,000. and for that, i am sorry!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:34 PM
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49. If the Republicans are behind this so much for the Party
of Freedom Fries and wrapping oneself in clothes that IMHO desecrate our flag. Why should he apologize for contributing to Democrats if he's a Democrat?
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:45 PM
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52. Keith should apologize when Citizens United apologizes to the world...
They better put Keith back on the air - no apology necessary!

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:51 PM
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53. Don't do it, Keith! Don't apologize!!
Edited on Sun Nov-07-10 06:23 PM by TexasObserver
They want to publicly spank you and have you show your obedience.

Don't do it!

You have personal capital in who you are and who you have become. Have faith that they will either relent or you'll find a place elsewhere. And don't be reluctant to sue them and aggressively pursue discovery against the very corporate weenies who are tormenting you. Watching your lawyer slap them silly in deposition is a joy you will never forget, and you'll have it on video.
Don't relent, Keith. They want to geld you.

You can syndicate. You can write a book that will make you tens of millions.

Your stock with those who watch you has never been higher. THOSE are the people who decide whether you go away - not the corporate weenies at Comcast. They can only keep you off the air so long. Sue the bastards and name the corporate weenies as individual defendants, revealing in your petition their histories as big time Republicans. That will make it public record, protect you from any claim of libel, and allow you to say with exactitude what you really want to say in response. Perhaps "Gentlemen, you wallow in Republican party politics, but cannot stand having one of your own employees writing a check to a candidate he supports. Is this complete hypocrisy lost on you?!"

Don't let the bastards get you down. They are strongest on the front end of their attack, when they have yet to contemplate the ball kicking they get in response.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:53 PM
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55.  KO could apologize
with total snark. Do it like a repuke with a wink wink nudge nudge and bla bla bla if I've offended anyone ... that kind of crap. Make MSNBC look like bullies and assholes. :evilgrin:
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 06:05 PM
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57. He could apologize for not first informing his boss that he intended to donate
but directly apologizing for donating should not be on the table
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 07:53 PM
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59. Apologies cost nothing.
Edited on Sun Nov-07-10 07:57 PM by McCamy Taylor
In the office I make a point of apologizing to patients anytime any of the staff makes a mistake--like forgetting to call a patient or forgetting to put them in a room. Does not matter whether I am to blame or not. I do it because it makes them feel better. And once the hurt feelings are soothed, I can get to work doing what I need to do, and they can get the care they need.

If KO cares about giving a voice to the voiceless, he will not hesitate a moment.

On the other hand, if they demand that he do a special comment about "Cap and Trade" he should just say no.
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