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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 05:12 PM
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Bill Maher - New Rules - Talk About A False Equivalency
Jon Stewart does not think Keith is glenn (but the poop joke is pretty damn funny)

The media's balance for balance sake is what the Daily Show fights against every week - Jon points this out constantly

Then Bill says the rally was about us reaching across to the moderates on the other side.
That wasn't the same rally I was at.

I took away from it that we need to not believe the black and white media war - and that we, as people, are much more than the one dimensional stereotypes that we are labeled.
That we already work together - every day.

It's just that the loudest are the only ones heard.

Then Bill goes on to compare the rally's message with Obama's feudal attempt at bipartisanship - Huh?

When Jon interviewed Obama just 3 days earlier he confronted him about his timidness.

he knows they are the party of NO - he calls them out on it on his show all the time.

But, the rally was about people not politicians - Maher's New Rules is about politics

So, what was Jon's crime? - he dared to point out that Olbermann often engages in hyper-partisan rhetoric

Which - wait for it - he does.
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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 05:21 PM
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1. I am still waiting for
the examples of hyper-partisan rhetoric that Olbermann has made. Also appearing partisan may result from reporting, as objectively as possible, the truth.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 05:26 PM
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3. "In Scott Brown we have an irresponsible, homophobic, racist reactionary ex-nude model...
...tea-bagging supporter of violence against women and politicans with whom he disagrees."

You can argue each charge on its merits, and there is worse partisan rhetoric in cable-land, but that's probably not the most objective description of Brown possible. (I think the violence against women charge refers to his failure to explicitly disagree with something yelled from a crowd, for example.)
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 05:50 PM
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6. So you think Olbermann is a journalist and not a pundit?
Edited on Mon Nov-08-10 05:50 PM by walldude
If you want to see some of his "hyper-partisanship" just look through his "special comments". When you are watching them, don't think about whether or not you agree with him, think about whether or not he is representing both sides of an issue. I usually agree with Olbermann but I certainly will never pretend he is an objective journalist.

While Stewart went too far if he said KO and BEck were the same animal, his point stands. There is no "news" it's all infotainment, and that is bad for America.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 05:22 PM
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2. Unrec -- maher wasn't the only thoughtful
Person to point out the glaring false equivalency.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 05:41 PM
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4. Bipartisanship was not a big issue in feudal times.
Perhaps you meant 'futile'?
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 06:20 PM
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7. Yes - thank you
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Dyler Turden Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 05:46 PM
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5. I was there as well.
Edited on Mon Nov-08-10 05:47 PM by Dyler Turden
And you are so right in my opinion. I enjoy both these personalities, but Maher kinda pissed me off with that commentary. Everyone I met there (at the rally) was a liberal with a hope that this great divide being caused by the polemics of right wing media such as Fox and Limbaugh could be abated.

This was an answer to Beck's rally and we kicked his ass.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 09:13 PM
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8. loved The Roots
Edited on Mon Nov-08-10 09:14 PM by lame54
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