Why Is Obama Cuddling Up to Karl Rove and His Gas Drilling Friends?

[maryf]

http://www.alternet.org/story/148762/

"In the days following Tuesday's election, President Obama's first peace offering to hardliners across the aisle was telling: "We've got, I think, broad agreement that we've got terrific natural gas resources in this country," he said. At the same time he was giving the thumbs-up for natural gas drilling, Karl Rove was doing the same, appearing as the keynote speaker at Pittsburgh's David Lawrence Convention Center for the DUG (Developing Unconventional Gas) East Coast conference on hydraulic fracturing for natural gas in the Marcellus Shale."

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"Local farmers Ron Gullah and Stephen Cleghhorn spoke poignantly of their land being destroyed by water contaminated from fracking. "This is a revolution!" said Loretta Weir, a Pittsburgh resident, and necessary because the gas companies operate "outside the law." Gloria Forouzan, a Marcellus Protester organizer, told AlterNet she was sure a mass movement was in the making. Every day she has been getting calls from people across the country. On Wednesday Wilkes-Barre ran its own protest, and people on the street who had never heard of fracking promised to travel out to Luzerne Community College to see a free showing of the documentary Gasland. Residents of Little Rock and Dallas held their own protests, too, on November 3 and in Cherry Valley, NY a protest will be held on Nov 11. "People are taking heart in what others are doing," Forouzan said." more at link

It's the water people, it's our lives here...and it's all for profit that they are pushing this, we aren't lacking in gas now...

[SidDithers]

1. Unrec...nt

Sid

[maryf]

2. why?

because of the Obama thing? He asked us to put his feet to the fire...

[WinkyDink]

7. Ironic you have Jack "You can't handle the truth!" Nicholson there.

[Mimosa]

30. ^ What IS Dithers' problem? ^

You have nothing to say. Just go around unreccing thoughtful topics. Can't you even make a topic of your own?

[Skittles]

39. "none so blind as those who will not see"

[racaulk]

56. Thank you for saying that.

It's really getting tiresome. :thumbsup:

[Name removed]

38. Deleted message

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[maryf]

3. Upstate NY Cherry Valley action

http://www.watershedpost.com/2010/anti-frackers-gear-protest-frac-job-cherry-valley

[undeterred]

4. Across the aisle?

Gee whiz, it feels like we're the ones across the aisle from Obama. Maybe someday he'll reach out to us with a peace offering.

[maryf]

5. It would be nice! nt

[LWolf]

57. You're right.

He "cuddles up" with the enemy and doesn't reach across to the people that elected him. Not exactly "post partisan."

[WinkyDink]

6. Good-bye, Western and NE PA. Hope you like our Gov. Corbett and Sen. Toomey.

[deminks]

8. K&R

C'mon, baby, light my tapwater.

We do have great natural resources. The consequences come from how we access them and overuse them.

[maryf]

13. and how they are destroying our most precious resources

in order to profit...

[ixion]

9. Because he's a corporatist

would be why.

[RC]

10. Yep, that's where the money is.

[Lorien]

11. Why?

come on, does anyone really have to ask at this point?

[maryf]

12. not really...

shame though...

[Individualist]

15. +1

[Starry Messenger]

14. I rec'd this morning

Looks like I forgot to kick!

[maryf]

16. Better timing now!

thanks!

[treestar]

17. Unrec.

Hyperbolic, OTT post title.

[maryf]

18. I just copied the post title from the article...

thought of changing it, thought it disingenuous...did you read it?

[Catherina]

19. I read it. Rec'd n/t

[KoKo]

21. treestar, we are all "on edge" these days...but you keep doing "UnRec" everywhere on DU

and I'm wondering if you are thinking you are a Moderator? Why don't you sign up ...because Skinner just asked for people to sign up to be Mods on DU.

I'm stressed like you...but sheesh...you are everywhere. Sometimes it's good to take a break from this place. Many of us have had to do it to restore our "perspective."

Just saying.. It's "TOO MUCH" all your "UnRec's" that you post about doing. OTT...:-(

[treestar]

51. Grateful for your concern

:donut:

[jefferson_dem]

20. Unrec...

Bogus unsubstantiated hyperbole...at best. Even below alternet's standards. Let me know when you find a real critique of the man's policies.

[KoKo]

22. Could you do at least a "3-Point" on WHY this is "unsubstantiated hyperbole?"

Readers are WAITING.... Otherwise this just sounds like TRASHING/SNARK.

[jefferson_dem]

23. Seriously?

I'm sorry. I didn't realize folks around here were that easy. Here's all the author (hyperbolist) attributes to Obama: "We've got, I think, broad agreement that we've got terrific natural gas resources in this country." The rest is baseless, inflamatory conjecture. From the above quote, do you honestly take the mammoth leap to "Obama Cuddling Up to Karl Rove and His Gas Drilling Friends?" That's not even a thin reed. Sorry.

[KoKo]

28. I watch the Financial News and read their Reports...NAT GAS is set to Take Off

because Obama isn't going to be able to get his "Green Energy" Programs through Congress with the New Regime..he's going to be pressured to use "Nat Gas" as the "Alternative Energy" source in the INTERIM...and that means the SHALE GAS DRILLERS...will have his ear.

If you don't think Obama is listening to Karl Rove (for his expert opinion) then you aren't aware that Clinton picked "Toe Sucking Repug, Dick Morris" after he lost Congress and Senate in '04 to Redirect his Adminstration and Morris Happily Obliged with TRIANGULATION and in his Second Term gave De-Regulation Away to Wall Street and De Reg of Telecom to the Repugs. Dick Morris...and now Karl Rove.

Obama believes in listening to Everyone who HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL! (even if their SUCCESS caused CRISIS} EXAMPLE: His Picks for Cabinet and Financial before and shortly after his Inauguration.

[maryf]

29. Thanks KoKo!

excellent points.

[maryf]

36. Hyperlink to NYT article about Obama's support for fracking

was in the alternet article...in case you missed my other post, at the green "he said" at the link...sorry I should have pointed that out when I posted.

[maryf]

25. UNSUBSTANTIATED? Have you studied the hydraulic fracturing debate?

For any one to encourage the use of a process that could endanger the water source for millions (without hyperbole) of people, I say that is bad policy. They want to hydrofrack along the Delaware, that extends to the Chesapeke...15,000,000 people could be poisoned...Wow...please read up on this stuff...the Gulf was bad, this is at least equally so...without hyperbole.

Watch Gasland, it is not hyperbolic in the least (the hype might be), much less so than any Michael Moore movie (and I love MM).

And, on edit, did you read the hyperlink from "he said" in the article? They are there for a reason, it leads one to this:

http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2010/11/04/04greenwire-obamas-enthusiasm-for-gas-drilling-raises-eyeb-33483.html

Which I posted a couple days ago here (much more at thread):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9505023

[KoKo]

40. Thanks for the links...it's true..Some Strong Advocates on Wall St. for this

they were all over CNBC..Financial Channel this day yaking on about the money to be made. We need to inform ourselves about what they are up to.

[maryf]

45. It makes me feel better, somehow, to think they are short-sighted...

and not just plain evil...anyone who goes for profit over people's life needs is evil regardless...

[maryf]

49. One thing I read, but can't find again, is converting the gas to liquid and

selling it to Europe, not only raping and destroying here, but not even storing it for our use...instant profit...

[girl gone mad]

24. I guess he never took any college Physics..

or maybe he just doesn't care about life on earth.

Entropy: that arrow of time is really real, Mr. President. You don't get to rewind.

[maryf]

26. Seven generations should be considered

every time he thinks...thanks!

[sarcasmo]

27. Looking for his next job in 2012.

[jefferson_dem]

31. Goodness.

I feel your pain but don't think you'll be getting wish.

[sarcasmo]

33. I voted for him but going to India and saying they create jobs?

That is some total horse shit I would have expected from one of the Bush press writers.

[ibegurpard]

32. why is Obama pushing school privatization?

:shrug:

[maryf]

34. same answer...

follow the money...

[KoKo]

42. I think Obama looks for "Experts in the Field" because of his background.

He believes those "At the Top of their Game" are the people he needs to get advice from...because THEY MADE IT...and most have some degrees from Top Business Schools and are very successful...in the "past years." What worries me is that Obama listens to those who've just about cracked up the US...and just because they have pedigree's, money, success and maybe a Ph.D or Business Degree from top School....he feels he's getting "Blue Ribbon Advice."

Think about that. I don't know if he's doing the wrong approach...but I don't trust putting the Chief Foxes in charge of the Hen House Once Again! Even if they are the "Chief Foxes" and not low level WalMart employee Foxes..... :-( (Actually the "low level foxes" might have learned their lessons...but not their MASTER FOXES who got away with it all)

[maryf]

44. Maybe...

I think he's right with them and has been for quite a while...but maybe he's not as savvy as I think...

[Karmadillo]

35. Because one cuddles up to one's allies?

nt

[maryf]

37. Hope you read the article with the hyperlinks...

:)

[PBS Poll-435]

41. ~~~~Let It Sink!~~~~

nt, obviously.

[maryf]

43. call me stupid...

I have no idea what you mean? really...

[PBS Poll-435]

46. Stupid.

Your Wish/My Command.

[maryf]

47. my question was sincere...

your answer served as another kick, thanks.

[PBS Poll-435]

48. I know...

Back during the 2008 Primaries, a movement here at DU said that any topic/article/whatever that was unflattering to then Sen. Obama would be responded to with "Let it Sink". No responses to the OP means it goes away and most DUers probably would never see it.


That's all.

[maryf]

50. Thanks...

I thought it might be something like that...just wasn't sure...

[glitch]

52. Telling the unreckers to not kick so the thread will sink.

Kick.

[maryf]

53. thanks!

:)

[KoKo]

54. Kick....

[w8liftinglady]

55. all I have to say is..Look at Joe Barton's district...and see what happens.

The death rate from cancers due to "unknown causes" is well-documented...there is a natural gas well every 10 feet,almost.

Follow my area...see for yourself.

[maryf]

58. damn...

thanks, I will research that...