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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:48 PM
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Found this covering the date ranges of 11/7-11/9 (re: missle launch)
( 070606Z NOV 2010 )

EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
MISSILES.
1. INTERMITTENT MISSILE FIRING OPERATIONS 0001Z TO 2359Z
DAILY MONDAY THRU SUNDAY IN THE NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER
SEA RANGE. THE MAJORITY OF MISSILE FIRINGS TAKE PLACE
1400Z TO 2359Z AND 0001Z TO 0200Z DAILY MONDAY THRU FRIDAY
IN AREA BOUND BY
34-02N 119-04W, 33-52N 119-06W, 33-29N 118-37W,
33-20N 118-37W, 32-11N 120-16W, 31-54N 121-35W,
35-09N 123-39W, 35-29N 123-00W, 35-57N 121-32W,
34-04N 119-04W.
2. VESSELS MAY BE REQUESTED TO ALTER COURSE WITHIN THE ABOVE
AREA DUE TO FIRING OPERATIONS AND ARE REQUESTED TO CONTACT
PLEAD CONTROL ON 5081.5 MHZ (5080 KHZ) OR 3238.5 KHZ (3237 KHZ)
SECONDARY OR 156.8 MHZ (CH 16) OR 127.55 MHZ BEFORE ENTERING
THE ABOVE BOUNDARIES AND MAINTAIN CONTINUOUS GUARD WHILE
WITHIN THE RANGE.
3. VESSELS INBOUND AND OUTBOUND FOR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA PORTS
WILL CREATE THE LEAST INTERFERENCE TO FIRING OPERATIONS
DURING THE SPECIFIC PERIODS, AS WELL AS ENHANCE THE VESSEL'S
SAFETY WHEN PASSING THROUGH THE VICINITY OF THE SEA RANGE
IF THEY WILL TRANSIT VIA THE SANTA BARBARA CHANNEL AND WITHIN
NINE MILES OFFSHORE VICINITY OF POINT MUGU OR CROSS THE AREA
SOUTHWEST OF SAN NICOLAS ISLAND BETWEEN SUNSET AND SUNRISE.
4. CANCEL NAVAREA XII 444/10.


http://www.nga.mil/NGAPortal/msi/query_results.jsp?MSI_queryType=BroadcastWarning&MSI_generalFilterType=All&MSI_generalFilterValue=-999&MSI_additionalFilterType1=DateRange&MSI_additionalFilterType2=-999&MSI_additionalFilterValue1=20101107%3A20101109&MSI_additionalFilterValue2=-999&MSI_outputOptionType1=SortBy&MSI_outputOptionType2=-999&MSI_outputOptionValue1=Number_DESC&MSI_outputOptionValue2=-999

http://www.nga.mil/NGAPortal/MSI.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=msi_portal_page_63
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:50 PM
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1. Good catch!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:55 PM
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2. And there you have it.
Everything about these launches, except for advisories like this one, is classified.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 04:05 PM
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3. Excellent work! So much for the Vandenberg AFB theory. But, there's still another issue . . .
Edited on Tue Nov-09-10 04:08 PM by leveymg
That thing is a SLBM, not a little piddling anti-ship missile or air-to-air. Those things AFIK have NOT been test fired from Pt. Mugu that anyone has ever seen before. Why start now?

The usual target range for SLBMs, as well as ICBMs, is the Ronald Reagan Test Center in the Marshall Islands, which is south-west. That missile yesterday appeared to be headed due North, toward Russia. Very strange.

It's been suggested that this was yet another failed anti-ballistic missile test or an accidental launch. Any thoughts on that?
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 04:09 PM
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4. Might be something more here: (heading home in a few)
https://www.notams.jcs.mil/dinsQueryWeb/

Will check into it more later after I get home.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 04:21 PM
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6. The footage I saw was taken from a CBS News copter over LA - that's what I understand.
Edited on Tue Nov-09-10 04:25 PM by leveymg
If it was taken from near LA the missile tracks right which would be north or north-west. North makes no sense, as that would take it over the Monterrey Peninsula. Not a good idea. But, if the footage was actually shot from the southern side of the coast nearer Santa Barbara to Lompoc, a left to right movement would be westward, out over the Pacific in the direction of the Reagan National Test Center in the Marshall Islands, where they usually target these things.

Can you look into where that footage was actually shot, and the actual track of the missile?

Thnx
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 07:50 PM
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10. Ok, back home now and will see what else I can find out
had a weird night :)
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 04:22 PM
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7. Could it have been an anti-missile test, using the orbiting booster
from a previous Vandenburg launch as a target before its orbit decays and re-enters the atmosphere?
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 04:15 PM
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5. There is a military launch site on San Nicolas island
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 04:28 PM
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8. Why would the US military deny knowledge of a launch from there?
Has anyone ever seen such a test from the base? I don't think so, given everyone's surprise at this one.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 05:49 PM
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9. There is no reasonable alternative
China and Russia didn't do it and no one else has the ability to launch missiles off the US coast.

The Pentagon is hiding (poorly I might add) the details of a classified test. Why would they issue a NAVAREA if they didn't launch the missile?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 09:00 PM
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11. The NAVAERA could have been issued for more routine tests - a cover for this big one - SDI?
Pure speculation, of course. But, that's the only thing that seems to make sense. Unless we believe it was all just an optical illusion of a airliner's contrail, as NBC Nightly News claimed tonight. Sure, it was.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 06:08 AM
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12. Photo of 2004 Arrow 2 ABM test - Point Mugu, CA
Edited on Wed Nov-10-10 06:37 AM by leveymg
This looks like it may be large enough to have left that contrail. Photo is of launch of an Arrow ABM. The Arrow 2 is a joint development of Israel and Boeing. The Arrow 3 is nearing deployment.

http://www.fotosearch.com/UNY121/u10512457/

Picture - california, point mugu, anti-ballistic, arrow system improvement. fotosearch - search stock photos, pictures, wall murals, images, and photo clipart
Picture - California, Point Mugu, Anti-Ballistic, Arrow System Improvement Program, Intercept, Launch, Missile
u10512457 Lushpix Stock Images Royalty Free Photograph

Here's the same image, posted at Wiki:

Arrow 2 launch on July 29, 2004, at the Naval Air Station Point Mugu Missile Test Center, during AST USFT#1.



The Point Mugu test center has been used to evaluate all of the US Navy's missiles, including the Polaris and Trident SLBM, as well as its ABM systems.

#
Weapons Division PAO: Point Mugu History
Nov 21, 2007 ... The recorded history of Point Mugu dates to October 10, 1542 when the ... a Naval Air Facility at Point Mugu was established to test and evaluate the Loon ... Regulus, Bullpup, Polaris, Trident, Harpoon, Tomahawk, SLAM, ...
www.navair.navy.mil/nawcwd/.../history_point_mugu.htm - Cached - Similar

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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 07:30 AM
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13. Here's what the cbs crew was told
The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a missile. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus.
;-)
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