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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 05:03 PM
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Dr Strangelove, tonight 8 pm, TCM.



I've lost track of how many times I've seen it but I'll probably watch it again tonight.



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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 05:04 PM
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1. One of the best films ever. Thanks for the heads-up.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 05:04 PM
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2. I have it on DVD. The resolution is pretty good.
I'll probably watch it on TCM anyway. One of my favorite steak bars usually runs TCM.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 05:07 PM
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3. You're bunker is ready, Senor....
Edited on Tue Nov-09-10 05:13 PM by Joe Chi Minh
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 05:08 PM
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4. Oh, the irony!
:rofl:

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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 11:58 PM
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26. Indeed.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 05:08 PM
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5. As my "real world" experience has expanded over the years,
this film has just gotten better and better. Amazing film.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 05:24 PM
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6. !
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 06:35 PM
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7. So.....
don't forget to say your prayers!
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 07:13 PM
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18. That line ABSOLUTELY kills me
That line is as dark as dark comedies get.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 06:40 PM
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8. An absolute MASTERPIECE.
Edited on Tue Nov-09-10 06:41 PM by TheWatcher
A biting satire, and a wonderful cautionary tale, it is still one of the most relevant films of it's kind.

Timeless and haunting.

Considering what our country has become though, with the path we are on, we are going to quickly make it look tame and timid by comparison.

We don't seem to heed any warning, reason, or logic.

America is almost fetishized and mesmerized with destroying itself.

Idiocracy is going to be looked upon as a Documentary at this rate.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 06:45 PM
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10. It has the single funniest line in film, IMO
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"

The first time I saw it I didn't hear anything of the next 2 minutes of the movie; I was laughing too hard.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 06:51 PM
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12. I think it was very telling when we couldnt save the world if we had to damage a machine that belong
ed to coke.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 11:27 PM
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22. Actually I think Col. Guano's quote was that if Mandrake *didn't* succeed in saving the world...
...he'd have to answer to Coca Cola.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 11:38 PM
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23. Thank you for setting me straight. nm
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 06:52 PM
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13. It's Ironic subtlety is just brilliant, genius.
That's my favorite line from the film too.

It crystallizes the insanity of it's subject matter perfectly. :)

And perhaps the insanity of the MIC as a whole.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 07:01 PM
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17. There are so many little things about that movie. Kubrick was a genius and/or insane.
E.G.

The woman in the Playboy that James Earl Jones is reading in the bomber is George C. Scott's secretary/girlfriend.

Peter Sellers is in both shots in the two camera setup in the war room, as the President and as Strangelove.

The actors in the bomber crew weren't shown the whole script, and thought it was a drama (watch it and consider that).

It was shot in variable aspect ratio (which is why there's not a letterbox edition).

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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 07:14 PM
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19. Kubrick WAS a genius.
Most people will never, ever get it, but everyone should really watch, rewatch, and study Eyes Wide Shut.

Kubrick was trying to tell us something, WARN us about something.

The story of Tom and Nicole's characters was just an aside thing.

The point of that film has absolutely NOTHING to do with their characters or their story.

It was, in a way, his most important film.

But, because he was an insane genius who knew how to communicate so subtly and between the lines, most did not get it.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 07:15 PM
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20. So hard to pick his best. Clockwork? FMJ? Paths of Glory?
Edited on Tue Nov-09-10 07:16 PM by Recursion
Paths in some ways contains the rest of his work.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 07:18 PM
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21. You really can't pick his best, because they are all such unique bodies of work unto their own
Don't forget 2001 and Barry Lyndon, either. :)

And all the wonderful, weird conspiracy theories behind the symbolism of The Shining.

Kubrick was like NO OTHER.

There will never be another like him.

We would all do well to study the man and his work.

He had so much to tell us.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 04:19 PM
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34. I'm curious what you think it was about.
It's been a while, but to me the whole film was a complex study of morals and gender roles and sexuality and class, as well as the whole idea that Bill will never really know the truth about the group/class he is trying to become part of.

But the marriage is central to that. The ideas of marriage and morality, the whole Adam-and-Eve aspect of the dream, Bill's traditional moral values that conflict with his wife's and with those of the entire class he is trying to move up to, all center around, or at least are symbolized, by the marital conflicts. The question of whether they will survive and be happy and all that is incidental, but the relationship is not.

I'm curious what I've missed, what you think we were warned about. I've always felt like people treated it simplistically, that the whole erotic element and the thriller aspect were deliberately flattened in the film to make it more about the deeper questions and messages, and that people who complained that it wasn't as edgy or racy as they expected didn't think enough about WHY it wasn't. Kubrik was using the danger and the erotic elements just enough to have something to hang the real discussion on.

But your words make me think you saw something beyond what I saw, so spill! What do you mean?
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 01:11 AM
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31. Oops, you beat me to it. Worth posting twice. nt
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 04:21 AM
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32. Have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?
About as perfect a movie as there's ever been...
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 06:43 PM
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9. "It vas determined zat ze doomsday device vas not a practical deterrent...
Edited on Tue Nov-09-10 06:49 PM by Recursion
...for reasons zat should at zis moment be all too obvious."

Sellers, Scott, and Kubrick at their best (an early James Earl Jones too).
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 06:48 PM
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11. Yes a doomsday device isnt effective unless you tell everyone you have it. nm
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 06:52 PM
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14. I saw it when it came out and it was very meaningful at that time as it is now. nm
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 11:42 PM
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25. Saw it at that same time on advice from my poli sci prof.
Best assignment of all time.

He said he was silent while the audience roared and vice versa.

I never quite figured out what that said of him.

I do know that I've seen Strangelove probably ten times. I never failed to see something new and brilliant in each viewing, but I suppose that's more about me than about Kubrick.

It's on my DVR now. I can't wait. There's something new waiting for me in that film. I know it.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 12:15 AM
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27. I watch it every couple of years. Brilliant film. Who do you think Dr. Strangelove was modeled after
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 12:26 AM
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28. I'll probably have a better idea after this next viewing, but it sure was a model for ...
... that fucking war criminal, Henry Kissinger.

He even modeled his looks after the film.

Perhaps it was Kubrick at his prescient best.

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 12:28 AM
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29. Yes Henry Kissinger. nm
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 06:49 AM
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33. It's pretty blatantly von Braun, no? (nt)
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 06:53 PM
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15. I still cry at the ending. What a foolish species we are. nm
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 06:55 PM
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16. thanks for the heads up. n/m
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 11:41 PM
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24. Yee Haw!
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 01:09 AM
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30. "This is the War Room. You can't fight in the WAR ROOM!" nt
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