What is wrong with Ed Schultz? Ever since the election he has been railing against the President

[mfcorey1]

with such intensity. I mean call him out when he is wrong. But I don't see him railing against these minions that just took over the house with a toxic agenda.

[laughingliberal]

1. Anything in particular he's saying that doesn't make sense?

[azmouse]

2. Ed goes after the nutbag RWers on a regular basis.

Ed doesn't like what the President said about outsourcing so he's challenging him to do better.

[laughingliberal]

5. That's what I heard. nt

[Skidmore]

3. He did that up until about a month before the election then he

started haranguing, asking about why people wouldn't support the Dems. What Ed does is beyond criticism, and so does that Cenk person. Neither one of them has anything constructive to offer and actively go about tearing everything down in a way that gives the RW machine fodder.

[laughingliberal]

He just said the President can't do it alone and liberals need to get behind him & push all the...

..Democrats to stand for American workers.

[saracat]

14. I agree with both Cenk and Ed. And they are both more constructive than either the Prez

or the Apologia. When something is wrong fix it. Instead, the Prez solution is to be even MORE bipartisan.What was that definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results? Yeah, like that worked so well. Gimme a break.We lost some very good folks this last cycle and is wasn't because they didn't support the Prez..

[butterfly77]

18. I agree completely..

and I watched as they tried to mobilize the base when they were the ones who ran them away.

I listened to him on the radio today as he said on the radio what he is saying on tv.

I listened I believe many of his callers were teabaggers who were glad to put the President down and said they wouldn't be voting for the President..

[SoFlaJet]

4. Probably because

he's really a republican in disguise

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

6. So a Republican in disguise is pissed....

....that a Democrat is already compromising with far right-wingers?

That makes sense.

[laughingliberal]

7. Must be why he just said the Republicans won't help workers because they're all at the country club.

[butterfly77]

8. He continually helped the republicons...

during the healthcare debate,and gave them their talking points.

[laughingliberal]

17. Really? I heard him pushing for a PO, daily. Must have missed it when the Republicans used those...

...talking points.

[butterfly77]

22. He was so busy trying to get something ..

he knew he wasn't going to get after Baucas f------ over the bill and Bluedogs started siding with repugs he acted like he still didn't get the message instead of targeting these bluedogs he put all of the blame on the President...

[Major Hogwash]

24. That's where it belonged.

The blame that is.

The President is responsible for garnering support for his own agenda, but Obama doled out responsibilty to Reid and Pelosi, and the bill got watered down to nothing.

[countrydad58]

27. while campaigning in the primaries

hard for the likes of Lincoln & Spector, both who opposed a PO.

[Major Hogwash]

39. They were history anyway.

My view is that they did what they "thought" their constituents wanted, but what their constitutents really wanted was access to affordable health care.
But Lincoln and Spector are too removed from what their constituents wanted, spent too much time in Washington to see that arguing against it was the 3rd rail for them.

[laughingliberal]

26. The President was behind Baucus. Ed was not giving the Republicans their talking points.

Lobbyists for both the drug and hospital industries say that, as early as June, White House officials directed them to work out cost-saving deals with Mr. Baucus’s committee.

Drug industry lobbyists said they negotiated a deal to contribute $80 billion over 10 years toward the cost of an overhaul with Mr. Baucus, under White House supervision, before taking it to the president for final approval. House lawmakers have said they were caught by surprise when it was announced.

Hospital industry lobbyists, speaking on condition of anonymity for fear of alienating the White House, say they negotiated their $155 billion in concessions with Mr. Baucus and the administration in tandem. House staff members were present, including for at least one White House meeting, but their role was peripheral, the lobbyists said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/health/policy/13health.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1

[butterfly77]

58. Ed jumps his ass out there..

without all of the facts. While I do agree with ed to a certain extent on some of his points he needs to shut up about India and wait until he gains some more facts before opening his mouth.

[earthside]

21. Oh, those single-payer Repuglicans.

There were a lot of them.

Schultz was a single-payer guy ... then a public option guy.

But, maybe you weren't listening for those six months or so.

[nadinbrzezinski]

36. Alternate reality anybody?

[Dappleganger]

38. Bullshit.

[butterfly77]

56. Exactly,what are talking...

[sabrina 1]

59. Republicans wanted a PO?

Who knew? :eyes:

[GOTV]

64. Right! The GOP can't develop talking points with out Ed's help.

It's just not what they're good at.

[The Hitman]

9. We dont have an 11th Commandment

Like the GOP and Fox do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eleventh_Commandment_(Ronald_Reagan)

[kjackson227]

10. President Obama has always told his supporters to hold him...

accountable, so apparently this is what Ed is doing.

[RKP5637]

40. Agree!!! I think the dems have been more than compromising with the R's. Now the

R's want to spend the next 2 years with subpoenas. WTF! And we're supposed to pay for that. IMO, it's time for the D's to be less compromising.

[grahamhgreen]

57. BINGO!

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

11. Really?

You don't see him putting Cantor or Bohner or Bachmann on "Psycho Talk"?

[countrydad58]

28. Obviously you dont watch his show much do you!

Good Hair Neo-confederate Perry is on Psycho talk now as I'm typing

[kjackson227]

30. Yep. Ed is the middle-class mouthpiece, thank goodness...

we need him.

[butterfly77]

60. Psycho talk is ...

that crazy blonde bitch he has on the show who always leaves ed speechless as she throws out all of her reich wing talking points,then he lets Ron Christie take over the conversation because he doesn't have all of his facts when he brings these people on.

[flamingdem]

12. He needs to balance his emotions with facts

but he does deal with the working class, kind of rare on the MSM in that sense.

We need facts on jobs to India, he's not researching that and the guest is railing too.

[katty]

13. Ed is just blowing his stack over the nutbags,whackadoos and

sickening GOP -- he has lost all patience - even on camera.

[RKP5637]

47. Yep, he's expressing what I feel each day banging my head against the wall. I just

can't see any solutions the R's and tea baggers bring to the table. These people are nut cases. IMO it's time to end the constant compromising. The R's clearly are not interested in compromise. They just want to make the D's as bad as possible as they plan for 2012. Meanwhile the country is going off the cliff.

[doc03]

15. Could it be he deserves it n/t

[cutlassmama]

16. I noticed that too. It got too much last night and I had to turn him off.

[Raine]

19. Ed encouraged no actually pushed people hard to vote

Democratic in the mid-terms now he just wants the Democrats to grow that spine and stand up to the repigs. Good for ED! :thumbsup:

[laughingliberal]

20. +1000 nt

[Dappleganger]

41. +10000

[RKP5637]

48. +1000 +++ n/t

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

23. I feel schizophrenic about Obama/Dems and I think both Cenk and Ed are, too!

One minute, they're all praise and accolades for Obama and/or Dems. The next minute, they are taking him/them to the woodshed.

As most of us--not ALL of us here at DU--we want Obama/the Dems to succeed. That's what most of the frustration is about. Unlike many of the PUMAs and those on the Right, they want Obama to fail. Thank God most of us are not supporting that notion.

[AndrewP]

32. Yes, absolutely. If any of us voted for Hillary Clinton, we obviously want the President to fail!

I'm so tired of that bullshit being pushed.

The thing I hate about Schultz railing against Obama is that it's just a circular firing squad. There are plenty of right wing lunatic Republicans to attack...but it's always the President and the "PUMA's" fault in some people's mind.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

35. If my statement didn't include you, then don't take offense, but it seems as

though I hit a nerve. You're a PUMA? Well, that says quite a lot!!

What does PUMA stand for? I rest my case...

[AndrewP]

53. I didn't consider myself one....but if it bothers you then maybe I should become one!

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

61. Doesn't bother me one way or another. Do what you think it's best. n/t

[Dappleganger]

42. Oh my, he holds them accountable!

He speaks for ME.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

46. Sure. But Ed/Cenk go back and forth. And Cenk has been on Ed's show

commenting about how ambivalent he feels. On the one hand, he's disappointed with the president; while, on the other hand, he wants him to succeed.

I believe I'm on the same page as he and Ed are on. While I'm frustrated with Obama/Dems at their capitulation to the Right; on the other hand, I want to back this president to end because the alternative is simply unacceptable!

[countrydad58]

25. Nothing wrong with ED.

Obama is the one who has moved his timid little feet further rightward.

[SargeUNN]

29. Ed has forgotten his position

certainly it is one thing to give the president his insight but it is another to attack him to get his attention. Ed is confused on the fact that he needs to try and get the message to the white house but to bash them is only forcing them to ignore him. He is also one that needs to be rallying the viewers and listeners to get active since so many sat out the last election and not give more reason to sit it out the next election. It isn't easy to do but Ed and all our voices in the media should remember they can help turn off the electrate as well.

[AndrewP]

54. I like Ed, but I'm getting fatigued at the circular firing squad that Democrats love to do

[JamesA1102]

31. It's a blame the victim mentality.

Saw the same thing happen to Gore after the 2000 election.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

33. There's no money in agreeing.

[nadinbrzezinski]

34. I did not know Daryl Issa was POTUS...

and over free trade, he is right by the way.

[Dappleganger]

37. He's been excellent tonight!

Especially railing about all the jobs going overseas and none of the big corps want to talk about exactly how many are gone.

[kjackson227]

44. +1

[Autumn]

43. Then you have selective hearing,

he really goes after the republicans. Yeah sometimes he gives Obama and the Democrats hell, but rightly so. He gives credit where credit is due.

[veganlush]

45. Ed's not the sharpest tool in the shed..

...we don't need him doing the work for the other side, especially since he has access to the "choir", unlike the other side. We just don't need it.

[laughingliberal]

50. Well, since none of those 'sharp tools' seem to give a damn about workers, I guess he'll do until...

...one of them steps us for us.

[Binka]

51. He's Sharper Than You

Your post is gibberish.

[veganlush]

66. Words mean things, so what do you mean by "gibberish"?

I'm pointing out when i tune in to ed's show, he's often bashing the pres. If I tune into hannity's show, same thing. the difference is, hannity's preaching to his usual choir, people that drink his kool aid already and who's mind's are made up. With ed, though, he's preaching to OUR choir, our side, for the most part, of the political spectrum. Why do we need one of "ours" doing hannity's job for him? Hannity, beck, etc.. aren't gonna change many minds by preaching their hate to their ditto-heads-they've already bought in. I just don't see why we need to bring his point of view to our side.

[frylock]

52. why would ed do the work for the other side when the dems are perfectly happy to do it for them?

[Bucky]

49. That's what they call "a warm up act"

Ed's been around for a while, but maybe he's taking this loss personally. He's doing that Robert Kennedy thing of looking at the things that might have been and asking "Why not?"

I like the president, but I'll bet a President Joe Biden wouldn't have lost the House. Never mind. Change is slow, but the moral arch of the universe bends toward justice. We're a better country for the stuff Obama has accomplished in the past two years. And I'm convinced he isn't done yet.

[grahamhgreen]

55. Nothing is wrong with Ed. We are outraged at the policies of the President.

We want:

An end to the wars.

The fix to HCR that was promised.

An end to the slave-trade agreements.

Prosecutions for torture.

The taxes on the rich that the greatest generation had (+70%).

etc.

[donheld]

62. Ed is right.

[GOTV]

63. The Dems were defeated soundly in the election. The Prez is the most powerful Dem. Who should he

rail against?

[ecstatic]

65. It's the "in" thing. Dontcha know?

:sarcasm: