Are There Folks Here, If Given The Possible Verdict That Soc Sec/MediCare Need Cutting...

[WillyT]

will go along with that meme as the new normal?

:shrug:

[Catherina]

1. Need you ask? Honestly now. rec'd n/t

[WillyT]

2. I Just Want Them To Stand Up In Proud Recognition...

:shrug:

[Skittles]

5. oh please, Willy T - they won't ADMIT IT yet

they have to wait to find the PRO-OUTRAGE TALKING POINTS

[Mimosa]

3. Let them vote so we can tell who are Freeper trolls. n/t

My guess is that they'll stay in the closet on that one.

[Skittles]

4. oh of course

they'll twist themselves into pretzels to explain ANYTHING

[bettyellen]

7. and blame old people for voting, and not the young ones for staying home! i think

they have issues with their own parents, I swear.

[Skittles]

15. and the MEDIA

for making us, er, THINK WHAT WE THINK and, er, DO WHAT WE DO

[MineralMan]

6. Why don't we wait and see what happens before we start accusing

other DUers of stuff? I don't know. That seems to make a certain amount of sense.

Unrecced for jumping the gun and speculating about other DUers. Pretty lame, I think.

[littlewolf]

24. +1

[Bluenorthwest]

31. The OP is asking a question, not an accusation.

Also, the OP does not speculate, but interrogates. It is a damn fair question. And to repeat, the OP did not accuse, but asked a question. Seems to me that asking others to speak their minds on an important political subject is exactly what DU is all about.

[Ignis]

37. Questions are now accusations?

:freak:

Your slip is showing, MM.

[Autumn]

8. Anybody who says Soc Sec/MediCare need cutting.

is a fucking liar, republican or Democrat. Anyone who agrees with it is a fucking idiot.

[Name removed]

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[MineralMan]

10. Who are these paid trolls, earth mom?

And who here is recommending cutting social security. I do not believe I've seen a single post saying that. Some of us are saying that it's premature to assume that will happen. I'm one of those. If it is actually proposed in Congress, I'll be on the front lines in opposition. I do not believe it will be.

[girl gone mad]

12. Many here parrot the neo-liberal lies..

I, too, have seen them spread repeatedly.

[Skittles]

17. yes, like the CAT FOOD COMMISSION

TOTAL LIE!

[polmaven]

47. +1

:thumbsup:

[displacedvermoter]

43. Then perhaps you can explain what others won't.

which is why was this commission formed with this leadership in the first place?

[MineralMan]

49. I haven't the faintest idea. I'm just another person watching what's

going on. How would I know?

[Qutzupalotl]

52. If I had to guess...

it's either to make whatever proposal Obama has in mind look good by comparison, or to generate outrage and opposition to what the Republicans have long been advocating. If it's the latter, he's succeeded. We're damned near 100% against this non-proposal, and we seldom have that kind of agreement. Any Dems supporting this have to know they're DOA next election.

Why he didn't put liberals on the commission in the first place, I have no idea. I'd guess it's so they don't have to own these ideas.

I think the commission won't be able to reach agreement on a final report, and will have to disband without one. Simpson and Bowles probably knew this and thought releasing their recommendations would be the only way to get their ideas out in public. The good news here is the galvanized opposition to these ideas.

[OHdem10]

11. IMO, this is part of the crisis the GOP did not want to waste.

Use the Bank Failures, Emloyment crisis as excuse
to reform. Their way of course.

[madrchsod]

13. remember, there`s an asshole in every crowd

and to answer your question-yes.

[madrchsod]

14. i`m on social security and i`ll kick their ass.....

[Skittles]

16. you'd just be, er, ANECDOTAL and......HYPERBOLE

now GET THOSE KIDS OFF YOUR LAWN

[madrchsod]

22. no kids...it`s those GOD DAM DOGS!

[tnlefty]

18. Hell, I should hope not

and I say hell no, but time will tell. Gotta get the spin and message just right first.

[Canuckistanian]

19. I always thought SS and Medicare were "the third rail" of politics

Apparently not anymore.

[Pavulon]

20. no, they are going to fuck "those under 40"

10:1 odds.

[madrchsod]

23. yup...my daughter`s generation

[NorthCarolina]

26. Not 55 and under? eom

[laughingliberal]

29. The last 'leak' out of the CFC was 58. nt

[Pavulon]

33. Heard 42 on MTP. Because thats how old I am it pissed me off,

cant remember who it was senior republican if memory serves. That and medicare will not be broke article on the benefit statement.

[laughingliberal]

27. Last leaks I heard, they were saying no one over 58 would see their benefits changed. nt

[bettyellen]

50. all the babyboomers who paid extra not to get screwed, will get screwed

[earth mom]

21. Social Security is NOT broken. Those who say it is don't give a damn if cat food is on the menu

for the elderly, the sick and disabled!

There is a special kind of hell for anyone who goes along with the sick views of the cat food commission! :grr:

[laughingliberal]

28. +1000 nt

[leftstreet]

30. +1

[ibegurpard]

25. of course there are

the only enjoyment I will get out of the whole clusterfuck is watching them tie themselves into knots trying to justify it like they've been trying to justify everything else.

[laughingliberal]

32. Yep. nt

[pitohui]

34. no sane person thinks fica needs cutting

if you see such a comment, alert on it

[Bluenorthwest]

35. Recommended for asking a great question.

About a very important issue. This should be openly discussed here. But those who are in favor of cuts are too craven to speak up like citizens.

[bvar22]

36. Sure there are.

Were there some who immediately spun 180 and praised the dropping of the Public Option as "historic reform" as soon as it was trash canned by the Democratic Party Leadership?

"Are you going to let the perfect be the enemy of the good?" LOL

[Ignis]

38. K & R & IBTL

:patriot:

[Greyhound]

39. K&R. Yes of course, and if it weren't against the rules we could list them.

There is nothing they won't excuse in the name "pragmatism".
:kick: & R

[SidDithers]

40. Unrec...nt

Sid

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

51. Now I'm using posts of yours as an indication of what threads deserve recs. -nt

[bobthedrummer]

41. There's all kinds of folks here as you and I both know WillyT, k&r n/t

[lumberjack_jeff]

42. Of course.

I love hypotheticals. I can promise anything I want since the conditions of the exercise are unlikely in the extreme.

[Individualist]

44. Certainly

If that happens, we'll hear the neolibs variations of "If Obama does it, it's the right thing to do".

[JackRiddler]

45. Of course, and several of them have registered on this thread.

[QC]

46. Plenty. n/t

[demmiblue]

48. Ummm...

[WillyT]

53. Kick !!!

:kick: