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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 05:24 AM
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As the Country Falls Apart, It's Time for Our Revolution
The following is an excerpt from Ted Rall's new book, The Anti-American Manifesto (Seven Stories, 2010).


As the Country Falls Apart, It's Time for Our Revolution
Seven Stories Press / By Ted Rall

November 10, 2010 | It doesn't matter whether you feel it or not. It's happening. The story of the United States of America as we know it -- not merely as the world's dominant superpower, but as a discrete political, economic, and geographic entity -- is drawing to a close due to a convergence of emerging economic, environmental, and political crises.

~snip~

We can wait for the system to collapse of its own accord, for the rage of the downtrodden and dispossessed to build, for chaos of some sort to expose and destroy it. But implosion might take a long time. And when it happens, we may find ourselves even more powerless than we are now. They -- the hardcore, racist, undereducated, fundamentalist Christian, anti-civil liberties Right -- are preparing to step into the breach, to seize power. They can't wait to unleash their venomous hatred on the city-dwelling commie hipster fags they despise. They are armed. They recognize that the system is doomed. They've seen this coming. They're organized and willing to merge their disparate brands of conservatism under a common leadership. Most importantly, they get it. They don't need to be convinced that everything is in play. They're putting it in play.

Christian fundamentalists, the millennial end-of-the-worlders obsessed with the Left Behind series about the End Times, neo-Nazi racists, rural black-helicopter Michigan Militia types cut from the same inbred cloth as Timothy McVeigh, allied with "mainstream" gun nuts and right-wing Republicans, have been planning, preparing, and praying for the destruction of the "Godless," "secular" United States for decades. In the past, they formed groups like the John Birch Society and the Aryan Nations. Now the hard Right has a postmodern, decentralized non-organization organization called the Tea Party.

Right-wing organizational names change, but they amount to the same thing: the reactionary sociopolitical force -- the sole force -- poised to fill the vacuum when collapse occurs. The scenario outlined by Margaret Atwood's prescient novel The Handmaid's Tale -- rednecks in the trenches, hard military men running things, minorities and liberals taken away and massacred, setting the stage for an even more extreme form of laissez-faire corporate capitalism than we're suffering under today -- is a fair guess of how a post-U.S. scenario will play out unless we prepare to turn it in another direction.

Although the U.S. has fascist tendencies, it is unlikely that an ascendant American right would embrace fascism in its classic form. But a post-collapse reactionary government would likely have some attributes of fascism. Robert Paxton, who was my history professor at Columbia and is widely regarded as the nation's leading expert on the field, wrote the book on the subject (The Anatomy of Fascism). As Professor Paxton told me in 1991, the United States is the nation that is the most likely to go fascist, the one that has the most of the necessary ingredients -- including distrust of parliamentary democracy, extreme militarism, and a highly industrialized society -- required for a true fascist state. As things stand, there will be no one to prevent this nightmare.




unhappycamper comment: This excerpt is a great read.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 05:35 AM
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1. Makes me shudder.
Now we have Oprah helping an actual war criminal sell his bullshit book. An AWOL war criminal at that.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 06:19 AM
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2. Except for two itty bitty things.
One, and this ain't small: THE ARMY IS SOMEPLACE ELSE.

Two, we're a federal system and a grab for power like that will cause the federation to dissolve into separate, potentially warring states.

Now go and have your hysteria in the other room.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 06:39 AM
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3. There are plenty enough military here with the technological edge
I also think that being so heavily militarized and national obsession with military power and obsequious nature of many people toward the military and brass sets up a people for such conditions.

The sacred cow factor is more the issue than the location of the forces. There is a sizable minority that hopes and prays for a coup, even more have some level of resentment of civilian control, that is dangerous stuff.

I think your faith in the federal system are overrated as well. Surely, you recognize the states are mostly broke, corrupt, and or captured to a greater extent than the federal level. The few well run states are no match for the loons and are very dependent on the other states for survival and commerce. At best some will split off and attempt to survive but no question in my mind that most would go down the rabbit hole, especially as the bombing starts, even a small proportion of our planes can kill a lot of folks and destroy much property.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 06:49 AM
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4. "every democracy will finally collapse ..., which is always followed by a dictatorship."
Alex de Tocqueville: "every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

* From bondage to spiritual faith;
* From spiritual faith to great courage;
* From courage to liberty;
* From liberty to abundance;
* From abundance to complacency;
* From complacency to apathy;
* From apathy to dependence;
* From dependence back into bondage."
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 07:05 AM
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5. Stupid beyond stupid
Switch proper nouns and you could find RWers that say the same thing about progressives. This kind of talk never helps.

When Iran or some jackass somewhere starts talking tough there rises a tremendous outcry among progressives for some government talking head saying "all options are on the table." Even something as bland as that is understood to imply violence may be a response. With the implicit threat of violence from the US, even a response as opposed to preempt, is little more than a counter threat and where there are dueling threats there is little room for peace.

The same goes for this nonsense.

This hyperbole seems more like a secret desire for a self-fulfilling fantasy that doesn't even rise to the level of prophecy.

To hell with Rall and his stupid gopher or whatever it was. Sure the hamster with a glandular condition was cute but this is not cute. This is violence and anyone who cheers this (especially from the safety of their couch, wrapped in their Snuggli) should be called out for hypocrisy if they ever wail about why war in response to 9/11 is morally wrong or why someone who chest thumps for war but isn't the first outside the barbwire is a chickenhawk.

Do you think the US military will play along with this? Nevermind the fact 3/4 vote for republicans.

Do you think if you if it ever comes down to this you'll be spared the physical and mental ruin suffered by people touched by war? (I can't get a full night's sleep because of it and I've never been in the military let alone to a war.)

Do you think you're doing Obama any favors when the RW media is salivating for any excuse to tie him to someone like Bill Ayers or any other radical? This is filling their narrative beautifully!

Think, for God's sake. THINK!

Stop emoting like some testosterone-sotted neanderthal.

Whatever some jackass may have said about "2nd amendment remedies" will be waved off by the vast majority of Americans who are decent honest people struggling through each day. Those people are the ones we should be reaching out for. But they will reject us just as fast as they reject the snake oil remedy salesman because we turned out to be just like him.




and yes, I unrecc'ed
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 09:59 AM
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6. Thanks for posting.
I've been saying this for years, just not as well.

K&R!
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 10:53 AM
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7. Silly
The numbers on the right willing to do such a thing is even smaller than the "evil Marxists bringing in the UN to enslave them" nonsense spewed by those on the far-right about the left.

Luckily, the majority of both parties far outnumber the less than 10% who actually believe in such partisan fear based fantasy.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 12:51 PM
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8. Did the great depression result in revolution? No.
We are Americans, dammit!

We don't openly revolt!

We sit around and moan.

That's the American way!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 04:18 PM
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9. Calling for violent revolution? That's what Ted Rall is doing.
No, thank you very much.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 05:40 PM
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10. K&R
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