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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 10:50 AM Original message |
HS Student sues over pink cleats after cut by coach-Wore to honor Family Breast Cancer Survivors |
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AndrewP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
1. Not only the NFL, but the big English soccer league is doing some of it as well |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
40. And NFL players are fined for wearing the wrong socks |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
2. He was told not to wear them. Coach's call. It's a team sport. |
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Viking12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. So if the coach tells 18 year old players who to vote for, it's his call? Team sport and all. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. That makes no sense. Team members wearing a uniform during practice and games |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. False analogy. |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:08 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. That's a bit ridiulous. The coach *does* have the final say over uniforms on the field. |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:08 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. How will the coach know? |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #10 |
30. Straw man, and completely irrelevant. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
91. That's exactly my point. Only it's not. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
41. What does voting have to do with regulation uniforms? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
39. Pesky little rules |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
90. FAIL. If it is within the guidelines of the league ... |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
3. While I understand the student's position, I'm not sure what he expects from a lawsuit. |
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Lindsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:00 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I still think it was a really f' up'd thing for the coach to do.... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
43. It's probably a league rule and the coach doesn't make those rules |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
20. No Constitutional rights were violated? How about the 1st Amendment? |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. The coach can't violate the kids rights... |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Why would it be a "tough sell"? |
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Ginto (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
44. What if he wanted to wear a #82 jersey because his grandmother was 82? |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Not a good comparison--is there greater significance to his grandmother's age? |
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Ginto (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. What if his grandmother had just died at the age of 82? |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Still not seeing how that has anything to do with a relevant social issue. |
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Ginto (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. What if he wanted to change his name to Prostate Cancer on the back of his jersey. |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. If a major game disruption would occur if the "wrong" number is worn |
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Ginto (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. What if players complained that the pink shoes were a distraction? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #60 |
83. what if flying monkeys.... Yes, playing the "what if" game can be fun and can ignore the issue |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-10 05:32 PM Response to Reply #60 |
94. Two words. League rules. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-10 05:28 PM Response to Reply #53 |
93. Put down the shovel and step away from the hole. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #3 |
37. Publicly demostrates the the coach is a jerk who should not have authority over kids. |
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Fla_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #37 |
70. "allowed other players to emulate their NFL counterparts" |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Don't forget dog fighting. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. I enjoy the sarcasim ... I really do ... |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-10 05:33 PM Response to Reply #70 |
95. You've obviously never watched high school football in America. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-10 05:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
92. It depends on whether or not the school accepts federal funds |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
4. The comments on the story are truly disheartening. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. It's a football team, not an art class. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:06 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. And football is a religion, not a sport. nt |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:08 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. It sure seems to be, it's a shame Americans don't spend more of our collective sports $ on the Arts. |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:09 AM Response to Reply #7 |
19. Your kidding right? |
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luvspeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
5. some of the comments on that page are appalling... |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I think the NFL and the Susan G. Komen organization should get involved... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Self expression= art, music, dance. Sports= subordination and teamwork |
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nyc 4 Biden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #9 |
22. You should inform... |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
47. They are only allowed to do so with previous permission from the league. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #47 |
96. re:"See the huge, glaring, obvious difference?" |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
51. Apparently their coach-owners approve of the practice. How hard is that to understand? |
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nyc 4 Biden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. You can prove that in every instance I've shown, |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #61 |
74. If they didn't, they were fined. |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #5 |
23. Some of the comments on this page are pretty appalling. |
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Stevenmarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
12. The coach has the authority to be a big douchbag, but since this story has been posted here |
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Fla_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #12 |
29. Authority? Hell, when I played |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
18. It is nothing more than a violation of the First Amendment |
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Rebubula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Ahhh...this again |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Educate yourself. |
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Fla_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Yea |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Deity, I just don't get this place sometimes. |
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Fla_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. Wasn't that the harm.. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
50. Libraries are publicly funded. |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
76. Your example is so incorrect that I have a hard time believing... |
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Rebubula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
87. Nice try |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 05:28 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Very solid legal analysis. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #18 |
34. Ummmm, no |
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Ginto (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
45. Once again, what if he wanted to wear a #82 jersey because his grandmother was 82. |
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Fla_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #45 |
58. 82 is alright, 88... |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. lol |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
26. It is called a uniform for a reason |
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Fla_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Or.... |
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PRETZEL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
33. I know when I was in HS |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
35. He likely would have been chucked from the game by the officials anyway |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. No he wouldn't |
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Ginto (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Once again, what if he wanted to wear a #82 jersey because his grandmother was 82. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. That's not against the rules. |
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Ginto (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. What about a QB? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. A quarterback can wear any number he wants between 1-99. |
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Ginto (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 01:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. I guess you lose some of your rights when you join the NFL |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. They aren't governing numbers for quarterbacks in that way in the NFL. |
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Ginto (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Sounds like they are restricting free speech and expression. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. It is if there already is a number 82 issued. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Two players on the same team can be issued the same number |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Someone did that, and I can't remember, think it was a college team. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. That's correct |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
36. It has become accepted to wear pink gear in football |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #36 |
55. Yes, and they all get league permission to do so. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 01:12 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. I think we're mixing up issues. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. I see what the kid doing as a violation of team rules |
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bluedigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
75. Coach is a jack ass. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
77. My dad officiated in the NFL |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 03:59 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. That could very well be the case. |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 04:05 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. The league rules dictated that the player be kicked off the team? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. That would depend on the league |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. The coach didn't need to get in the kid's face |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Well, I've combed the MHSAA website and can't find any... |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
82. What color do they wear for cancer of the balls? |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #82 |
97. Blue? Off green? |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-10 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
85. Story from the local paper |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-10 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
89. Well it looks like sanity has prevailed. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. Hopefully the school is looking for a new coach. |
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