If Obama does NOT come out against this debt commision report, someone should challenge him in 2012

[still_one]

[Marr]

1. Has the report been released?

I've been very busy for the last week or so. What did I miss?

[tridim]

No.

[coti]

3. Yeah, it's a report from the Chairmen, but not their final recommendations. nt

[BzaDem]

2. There's no way he would sign it. It guts his own healthcare bill, among many other things.

He won't support something that isn't supported by 14/18 members on the commission.

[still_one]

4. It is more than not signing it, he should state in no uncertain terms he is against these proposals

[BzaDem]

6. He's likely going to wait for an actual commission report before he takes an official position.

There are some things in the chairman's mark that are good (such as raising the SS tax cap), so he is not going to disavow this hypothetical package as a whole. No reason to until the real package comes out.

[coti]

7. He can influence the debate and should do so. nt

[Capitalocracy]

17. Excellent point.

It's called the bully pulpit. Someone should inform Obama of this.

[still_one]

8. Social Security is Not broke, that is a myth like clean coal perpetuated by republicans

http://pol.moveon.org/ssmyths/

[BzaDem]

11. Your link proves my point. In 2037, SS will have to cut benefits by 25% unless the cap is raised.

[Capitalocracy]

16. Would it be cynical of me to think

that whether or not he signs it depends on how close we are to November 2012 when it gets on his desk?

[FiveGoodMen]

5. Against?!

Seems to me he stacked the deck just to get this exact result.

AND...

http://firedoglake.com/2010/07/01/breaking-pelosi-sneaks-approval-of-vote-on-debt-commission-recommendations-into-rule-regarding-war-funding/

[still_one]

9. If he doesn't realize that this will cause a revolution within the Democratic party, and speaks

against it immediately, then other people will.

Remember when Kerry ignored the swift pukes charges for a few weeks? He was never able to regain his footing after that

[LonePirate]

10. Even before this report there have already been plenty of reasons to warrant a primary challenger

We need a true liberal and progressive to challenge him to either win outright or to pull away from the center-right region where Obama currently resides.

[glitch]

14. True. Coming out strong against the debt commission report would be one reason not to primary

At this point he should be looking for those.

[somone]

15. Amen to that

[Taitertots]

12. If he supports Austerity, than no one with a brain would vote for him

Austerity is economic suicide. It is also very likely political suicide, at least for the portion of the democratic party that isn't absolutely stupid.

[somone]

13. They ought to be talking about jobs, not deficit

[Capitalocracy]

19. Oh, but don't you understand? The deficit is why we don't have jobs!

... or something... by some unknown, invisible mechanism...
:banghead:

[SidDithers]

18. Unrec...nt

Sid

[AlinPA]

20. Unrec. Hyperbole and irrational. The committee report has not been issued yet. nt

[stray cat]

21. The GOP certainly will

[bigwillq]

22. Someone should challenge him regardless

I am 100 percent for primary challenges for all incumbents.

[Scurrilous]

23. Unrecc. n/t