The movie AVATAR's "political" message

[SHRED]

A coworker mentioned in passing that he didn't care for the "message" of the movie.
I didn't get a chance to ask him what he meant by that.
Now granted he buys Glenn Beck books and listens to Rush but what gives?
Is there a RW meme about this movie? Was he told by his "leaders" to hate this movie?

Weird shit when the evil-doers are defeated in this movie and there is this person I know not liking the "message".
Holy crap!
:crazy:


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[Cleita]

1. Maybe there is a RW meme about it.

Remember how they attacked Harry Potter because the movies were about witchcraft?

[REP]

2. Indigeneous people need a Very Special White Person to be their Chosen One?

Yeah, I thought it sucked, too.

[SHRED]

6. I can guarantee you that's not what bugs him

[iris27]

8. +1 n/t

[ZombieHorde]

18. Would you have enjoyed the movie more if his skin color was different? nt

[REP]

30. Maybe with a better script, plot, dialog and characters

[ZombieHorde]

35. Why would expect those things from an action movie?

Action movies with decent plots and acting are pretty rare.

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon; Blade Runner; Ghost in the Shell; District Nine; Lord of the Rings trilogy; and Video Drone are exceptions.

[REP]

37. Why wouldn't I?

You left the latest two Bond flicks off your list.

[ZombieHorde]

38. I really liked the latest two Bond flicks, but stories have been done before on many occasions.

If you remove the action from those Bond films, not a lot is left. If you removed the action from Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, you would still have a great romantic movie. Ghost in the Shell would still try to define humanity. The action scenes in District Nine are probably the least disturbing parts of that movie. LOTR would take a big hit if the action was removed, but there is still a lot going on story wise.

[Motown_Johnny]

3. to me that movie was just "Dances With Wolves" on acid

but supposedly the message is that the good guys defend the environment while the bad guys work for corporations destroying the planet for nothing more than what it contains under the soil (coal, oil, etc)

[Xipe Totec]

7. Dances with Smurfs nt

[FSogol]

14. And "Dances with Wolves" was just a remake of "Broken Arrow."

:shrug:

[Xipe Totec]

4. I don't care how many right wingers dislike the "message"

It was still a crappy movie.

Fern Gully was more subtle and nuanced.

Unobtainium? Give me a break.

[ZombieHorde]

15. "Unobtainium? Give me a break."

I thought unobtainium was hilarious. You didn't snicker at all?

[Xipe Totec]

20. I almost walked out. It totally broke my suspense of disbelief

I was jarred back to reality immediately.

And it thoroughly pissed me off.

[ZombieHorde]

23. This is why I try not to go to the movies while I am sober. nt

[Xipe Totec]

24. Very good point

tactical error on my part; I was partially sober.

[pinboy3niner]

39. In a country that has "The Rent is Too Damn High Party"...

...'Unobtainium' isn't that far a stretch. :evilgrin:

[Dyler Turden]

32. I thought the same at first.

then I found out there is a legit source for the word since the 50's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtainium

So I'll give then a break on this one.

[ZombieHorde]

33. That's great. nt

[Jackpine Radical]

5. The primitive Injuns won against the hi-tech Cowboys,

"nature religion" was given favorable treatment, the MIC was portrayed as brutal & heartless, & the military was shown as a corporate tool. Hell yes, it was anti-establishment.

[Strelnikov_]

22. Ka-Ching n/t

[Bucky]

9. Republicans are apt to find messages of social responsibility offensive and conspiratorial.

I even recall one Republican friend referring to one of the recent Disney movies as "PC liberal brainwashing." I don't recall if it was The Lion King or Beauty and the Beast. But dittoheads routinely find anything produced or written within 200 miles of the Pacific or Atlantic coasts to be seditious anti-American propaganda.

PS, they're crazy.

[cynatnite]

10. The message was love the earth and hate the military...

Which it really wasn't that, but I've heard that spouted about.

I'm going to be the oddball here. I loved the movie. I thought it was beautiful, although the plot was a bit contrived.

[FSogol]

11. The corporation was the bad guy and was protected by a outsourced private army.

Mouth-breathing repubs hate whatever they are told hate. They wouldn't notice the themes in anything unless they were pointed out.

[GSLevel9]

12. meh... I liked it. I liked the message, too. nt

[Occam Bandage]

13. It could be that he used his very own brain to come to a conclusion about it.

Maybe he thought it was a heavy-handed, over-simplistic parable about industrial land usage and aboriginal land rights. Maybe he didn't like how the movie glorified the main character's committing treason because he got laid by a local.

Maybe he didn't like the 19th-century throwback plot, where the white explorer ends up being a better native than any of the natives could ever hope to be.

[MrScorpio]

16. The only message was, "Fork over your hard earned cash."

And the people listened.

[uncommon]

17. Well you see, wanting to leave the natives alone is hippie tree-hugger bullshit.

We're supposed to want to kill them and take their stuff. Silly.

[abelenkpe]

19. MIlitary Industrial Complex corrupt corporations

unquenchable desire to destroy and kill for resources. Yeah, I can see why a right winger would not like the movie. It basically just calls them out for being destructive arrogant murderous assholes.

As all of Cameron's movies do.

[Marr]

21. He probably didn't like the movie's portrayal of

the military as the enforcement arm of big business. It's an obvious reality, but not something the Glenn Beck crowd would care to acknowledge.

Or maybe he just didn't like the military being portrayed as the bad guys. That's probably it, really. You know how that crowd is-- anything less than fawning praise of their heroes is condemnation.

[Jackpine Radical]

25. I liked the damned movie. I saw it twice.

To be upset at the literal content is to miss the point. Flying mountains? Of course not. Unobtainium? A clever cue to maybe take it as an allegory, a myth. As for the "special white guy" or whatever, he recognized the superior culture of the natives and ended up joining it as utterly as he could. Sure, he had specialized knowledge & was able to enlist other "white guys" (of whatever sex or color) to join his rebellion, but he was not wiser or more moral or braver than the indigenes. The cheap shots against this movie fail in my estimate.

[Ozymanithrax]

26. They were offended that an American Soldier would betray other American Soldiers...

juest for a piece of ass from an illegal alien.

[pokerfan]

27. Your coworker doesn't believe in property rights

The bad guys wanted to take something that doesn't belong to them, violating the property rights of the natives. Was he disappointed that the bad guys lost?

[liberal N proud]

28. You mention Dittoheads and Beckerheads

Nothing more needs to be known, they don't like it so neither will their followers.

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[Alexander]

29. The message is, fork over the hard-earned cash in your wallet to James Cameron.

It was heavy-handed, one-dimensional, simplistic, and a ripoff of Dances With Wolves and Ferngully with fancy graphics.

I'm about a left-wing as it gets and I didn't like this movie.

[provis99]

31. Avatar: worst movie since Titanic.

[nadinbrzezinski]

34. The environmental message

and do point out to him that this is the story of Pocahontas.

Not only it is, it usually it blows their mind.

[phasma ex machina]

36. "Let's boogie"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[proteus_lives]

40. Message? It was Dances with Wolves/Ferngully in Space.

[ibegurpard]

41. the message was fine

the characterizations were one dimensional, the dialogue was laughable and other than the special effects the whole movie was pretty lame.

[Odin2005]

42. Wing-nuts don't like the us being portrayed as the bad guys.