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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 10:12 PM
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Catfood Commission: Include public option
Edited on Wed Nov-10-10 10:20 PM by Alcibiades
http://www.fiscalcommission.gov/sites/fiscalcommission.gov/files/documents/CoChair_Draft.pdf

Page 36
Add a robust public option and/or all-payer system in the exchange

Of course, this is a triggered option, which begs the question: if the cochairs really think this would save money, why wait?

Also, be aware that a lot of the stuff that's being posted simply isn't true, or is only one of several proposals. Also, some of the most outrageous stuff, such as stealing from Social Security (mainly from people who are currently young, BTW), and the capping of federal income are true. The defense cuts are a joke. The special minimum benefit for low-wage workers could be progressive, if we actually had details. Reinstating college benefits for child survivors would be good. Imposing social security taxes on employer-sponsored health care plans is in there: this is pretty bad. And there are tax cuts for the rich and corporations that are simply inexcusable and make a bad joke out of the whole project.

For something that is supposed to be the result of a long conspiracy against the American people, this looks as cobbled together as an essay written by a college freshman the morning it is due after a big frat party. Also, folks are claiming that the commission is rigged, but if that's the case, why have the cochairs had to poop out this "proposal," which was apparently only done because the commission itself could not reach consensus?

And if the commission itself, which is loaded up with white rural republicans, cannot reach a consensus on what is, overall, a pretty regressive package, why would the lame duck Democratic-controlled Congress pass this?

Anyway, read the damn thing before you freak out about it. Because you probably will.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 10:14 PM
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1. Would you please remove the "r" word from your post? It violates the rules.
And insults people whose lives are already difficult enough.

Thank you.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 10:18 PM
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2. "robust"?
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 10:28 PM
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7. .
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 10:29 PM
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8. Didn't see that word.
my bad.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 10:19 PM
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4. My brother's retarded
It's a clinical term. Nonetheless, I'll change it.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 10:24 PM
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6. You used it derogatorily, as I'm sure you're aware. If your brother is truly challeneged, then I'm
Edited on Wed Nov-10-10 10:26 PM by bobbolink
also sure you know how the term hurts.

Thank you for changing it, tho.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 10:18 PM
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3. There is no report. The co-chairs
threw out a kitchen-sink proposal that included every idea ever discussed, including every lunatic conservative proposal.

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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 10:20 PM
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5. Yep
That's what it looks like. Explains why it looks like the work of a hung-over freshman.
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