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caty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:19 AM
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Meds or groceries, and now cuts to S.S.
Edited on Thu Nov-11-10 10:22 AM by caty
I was at Kroger's Tuesday and, as I passed by the pharmacy, I heard an elderly woman turning down her $75 prescription, because if she paid that amount she would not be able to buy her groceries. And now our government, Dems and repubs alike, want to cut Social Security. I don't know what goes through our politicians' minds sometimes. Are they all sociopaths? How these people, that "we the people" elected, can be so heartless when it comes to 97% of the population, and then act as though the top 3% deserve anything that they want, amazes me.

I'm about ready to give up on our government. The wealthy have become gods in this country and the rest of us are just an inconvenience to them all. I wonder how inconvenient we could really be to them if we stopped spending any more that absolutely necessary. If we stopped using our credit cards, switched to credit unions, bought used items instead of new, and refused to get in any debt that would cause us to pay interest. I see a big backlash against banks and Wall Street coming. It's already here, to a small degree, but I see it coming in a much bigger way. We are tired of being taken advantage of and going without while the super wealthy get all the breaks while having to decide whether to buy the big yacht or the smaller yacht.










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durkermaker Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:21 AM
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1. Gotta pay for wall street bailouts/bonusses and stimulus for jobs that go to foreign workers somehow

and now you know how they're going to do it

has to come out of somebody's hide
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:26 AM
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4. You forgot paying for the wars..
I know, it's easy to forget them, out of sight out of mind..

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:26 AM
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5. The bailouts are pretty much paid back or will be and we made billions on it.
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durkermaker Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:50 AM
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8. try going to a bank or insurance company, and ask them to underwrite a trillion
Edited on Thu Nov-11-10 11:02 AM by durkermaker
unsecured with no proof or even real idea of how you can pay it back

tell them you dont want to pay no stink'in risk premium

i'd be curious what answer you would get

and anyway, i dont believe that we have every cent back in the bank, espeacially accounting for depreciation of the currency that the action created

you really believe their total screwups were made whole, with no interruption of massive bonusses with no loss to the taxpayer/average citizen?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 11:18 AM
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9. Its the smaller banks that we won't see money from.
Most of the ones we hate gave it back with Interest.

Except AIG. That was a mess.
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durkermaker Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 11:37 AM
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10. 'Except AIG'
Edited on Thu Nov-11-10 11:39 AM by durkermaker
where exactly, do you think those banks got the money from?

(they got it from AIG)

wall street was reflated via AIG
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:24 PM
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12. U.S. expects profit on AIG bailout
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durkermaker Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 08:38 AM
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13. then why did you say it was 'a mess'?
Edited on Fri Nov-12-10 08:38 AM by durkermaker
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 09:43 AM
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15. I didn't think they would be able to pay back $80 billion.
I'm actually pleasantly surprised.
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durkermaker Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 09:51 AM
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17. we're paying for it via inflation
at minimum, if it didnt cost any money, it still takes more money to buy the same stuff ecause of dillution
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 10:47 AM
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19. Not much inflation yet.
In fact inflation is so low the Fed is trying to create some.
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durkermaker Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 10:54 AM
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20. there shouldnt be ANY inflation in a depression
yet, commodities are soaring
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:25 AM
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2. You would only stop using credit cards, start buying used, and move to a credit unions to spite
Other people?

How's about doing it because it makes sense?
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caty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 02:23 PM
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11. I started do these things
years ago. I'm a very practical person when it comes to money. But now, knowing that it hurts Wall Street just a tiny bit, makes me feel even better about doing things that way.
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daleanime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:25 AM
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3. Why, darling, it's not the size of the yacht...
it's to use gold or platinum for the restrooms.:sarcasm:
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:28 AM
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6. We need to resist like the French
and other countries are doing this year. That's the only way we'll get the attention of our "leaders". Sheer numbers out in the streets is the only think that trips the "Oh shit!" braincell in politicians.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:30 AM
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7. We should be going back to before July 3rd, 1776, but we won't.
Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 09:09 AM
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14. This kind of tragedy doesn't happen in those 'socialised' European countries or Canada. n/t
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 09:48 AM
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16. I'm in the same boat as that lady.
My one-month supply of asthma meds cost roughly my entire month's grocery bill. I'm able to buy one (about $60.00) but not the other (just under $300.00). I used to be able to slip across the border and buy them but it's become so dangerous in the border towns I'm afraid to go there anymore. For the record, here are the cost comparisons U.S. vs. Mexico: Proventil is approx. $60.00 in the U.S. is $12.00 in Mexico. Advair is just under $300.00 in the U.S. and is $40.00 in Mexico.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 10:07 AM
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18. Have you tried to see if you can get a Mexican pharmacy
to mail your asthma drugs to you? It is certainly feasible.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 11:01 AM
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21. I thought the Affordable Health Act of 2010 made getting Rxs from CA or MX illegal. n/t
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