The Bush Tax Cuts Kerfuffle - Hear Me Out

[Yeggo]

I've had my progressive bonafides shredded pretty good on here from time to time, but in the interest of good debate, I'm not going to be thin-skinned about it. Therefore, I offer up my defense of the White House's capitulation on the Bush Tax Cuts for your slicing and dicing pleasure:

http://conversation101.squarespace.com/taxes/2010/11/11/the-unbending-ideologue-strikes-again.html#entry9441966

Basically, it goes something like this - First, the WH isn't bargaining from a position of power on this. We just got creamed last week, and election/consequences/etc.

Secondly, clearly the results of the last election show American people are a little slow. That, or we have that disease like the guy from Memento where we have no short term memories. So, maybe from time to time the masses need to be reminded that the GOP's full of shit when it comes to the deficit. At least when we were the ones running it up, middle class folks got something out of the deal - roads, home weatherization, etc. So, let the GOP start their term off with alienating the deficit hawks that got them elected and taking part ownership of the deficit.

[daleanime]

1. If the choices are all or none....

none is by far the better choice.

[Yeggo]

4. Better for who? n/t

[daleanime]

6. All of us....

except those making over 250,000. Would a couple of hundred a year help me? Yes, but my $200 is worth it if it brings in their $30,000+


Next to ending both wars or going to single payer best we can do for balance budget.

[StandingInLeftField]

2. There's something that I don't quite get.

If the American public was gullible enough to vote Repug this last cycle, with all evidence to the contrary, what makes anyone think that they will not buy into the same bullshit next time around?

[HillbillyBob]

3. This election was a cluster fuck, the Ds did not bring it

they assumed the man on the street had any sense...they were proven incorrect big time.

I said to those around me that to vote r now is about the stupidest thing they could do, and got the teahadist propaganda and said it was such..I don't speak to them now and likely will never again. These are people that I have known and tried to talk sense to for up to 30 yrs in some cases.

I have said before I was fed up, I made good on it this time. If you vote for Rs against yours and my better interests I have nothing else ever to do with you. Those who know me well know when I say such I am deadly serious.
Someone who was very close to me started about morality etc yet attended our commitment ceremony then voted for the pigs here in nc ,the ones that would re-criminalize us and pass an anti gay marriage amendment I am so angry with my her at this point I could spit. and all this shit about taxes just fucking madness all around.

They have been buying this shit for 30 yrs.

[MadHound]

5. This isn't about politics, who won, who lost,

This is about doing what is the best for our country. We simply can't afford to extend these tax cuts, period, none of them. They should simply expire and die, and that saved money, four trillion dollars, should be used to create a true jobs program and to cut down our debt.

Anything else is simply playing politics at the cost of our country's future well being.

[daleanime]

7. Amen...

:fistbump:

[Poboy]

8. UNrec.