Log Cabin Republicans: White House is MIA on DADT

[Bluebear]

Fierce.

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The leader of the Log Cabin Republicans said Wednesday that the White House is “MIA” – or Missing In Action – on Capitol Hill after he had met with nine Senate Republican offices about the effort to pass “don’t ask, don’t tell” repeal during the lame duck session.

“I’ve been on the Hill yesterday, today and the end of last week – no one has reached out to Republicans. White House legislative affairs is AWOL,” said Clarke Cooper, executive director of the Log Cabin Republicans. “One office said, ‘It’s quieter than crickets chirping.’ They’d love to get a call.”

Legislative affairs is the arm of the White House responsible for liaising with Congressional members on Capitol Hill and lobbying them on the administration’s legislative priorities.

The White House did not respond to inquiries from The Advocate for this article.

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/11/11/Log_Cabin_White_House_MIA_on_DADT/

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

1. Is there any issue that this incompetent bunch won't let the FOP co opt? nt

[Nuclear Unicorn]

22. It's all part of a cleverly devised strategy. Now follow along closely...

1. Make campaign promises

2. Renege on those promises

3. Wait for 30% of gay vote to go to GOP

4. Sit idle as Log Cabin rakes you over the rhetorical coals

5. with DoD survey out wait for GOP to take House of Reps and pass repeal

6. Watch as the Log Cabin grows 30% to 40 or 50 percent of the gay vote

7. A miracle happens



Makes perfect sense, right?

[pgodbold]

26. 6. Watch as the Log Cabin grows 30% to 40 or 50 percent of the gay vote

Ding! Ding! Ding! And the winner is Nuclear Unicorn!! SCORE! Precisely correct!

[Nuclear Unicorn]

48. I love the pie chart

DISCLAIMER: And not just because I love pie

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

53. I'm fucking speechless and I know you don't know me. But that very rarely happens. nt

[VMI Dem]

2. The plan was to keep DADT in place for the foreseeable future.

It is working.

[BlueIris]

57. Yep.

Ugly. Shameful.

[DrDan]

3. missing? don't think so . . . they are making their intentions very clear

[Just One Woman]

4. I don't think they understand

This has to be a congressional process. We the people have to make sure our congress understands that this has to happen. All people have rights, not just the ones they agree with. I think the White house is correct in the way they are handling it. The laws are made by congress, not one man in power. The judges should keep ruling against it and congress will be forced to act. We the people have to continue to write our Representatives and Senators until we get it done.

[Bluebear]

5. I think you should read further. Thank you!

"Legislative affairs is the arm of the White House responsible for liaising with Congressional members" == do you honestly think the White House doesn't lobby Congress when it wants to? As the article goes on to point out, Gibbs promised that that would occur.

[Tx4obama]

6. The White House issued a statement on Monday evening. Why is everyone ignoring that FACT.

The Advocate needs to read their own articles !!!


White House Opposes DADT Deal

Source: Advocate

A top White House official issued a statement Monday evening saying the administration does not approve of any attempt to remove “don’t ask, don’t tell” repeal from the Defense funding bill to which it is currently attached.

“The White House opposes any effort to strip 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' (repeal) from the National Defense Authorization Act,” said Dan Pfeiffer, White House Communications Director.

The Advocate reported Sunday that Sen. Carl Levin, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, was exploring the possibility of offering a stripped-down version of the Defense funding bill that scraps the repeal measure, and a spokesperson for Sen. John McCain, the ranking Republican on the committee, confirmed the discussions to The Wall Street Journal.

A spokesperson for Sen. Levin said Monday afternoon that he has been discussing with Sen. McCain the path forward on the National Defense Authorization Act, but she did not confirm whether the two were considering a version of the legislation that dropped the repeal provision.

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/11/08/White_House_Opposes_DADT_Deal/

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Senator Harry Reid has said more than once that he plans on putting the Defense Appropriations bill up for a vote this year (during the lame duck session).

[Bluebear]

8. oooooh they issued a STATEMENT!! Wow, Tx4Obama! Almost as good as the Easter Egg roll

:crazy:

[Tx4obama]

9. Your article...

is trying to spin the issue to say that the White House hasn't said anything - and that is NOT true.
People that are bashing The White House and Obama on this issue are only hurting themselves by pushing away supporters.

Let the Log Cabin REPUBLICANS whine all they want to.
They aren't ever going to do anything that highlights President Obama's position and his support of repealing DADT.

All the whining is getting very tiresome.

[Starry Messenger]

18. Anyone who gets "pushed away" by words on a message board

wasn't an ally to begin with. Obama is the one who talked about reaching across the aisle. That's what that whole Rick Warren mess was supposedly about too. What did he mean, reaching out with what? Mind tricks?

[Tx4obama]

20. BS

I believe that a lot of us out here are pretty fed up with all the bashing of Obama on DU regarding his support of Congress to repeal DADT.
I have not discontinued my support of the LGBT community 'offline' - only of the DU LGBT online posters that bash Obama everyday ;)

[Starry Messenger]

23. Oh yes, we just happen to have all the "bad gays" here on DU

:eyes: This is part of the LGBT community, online and off. Nice try.

[Bluebear]

38. We're pushing everybody away~!!!

:cry:

[Starry Messenger]

40. Poor poor straight people.

How oppressive you are, Bluebear. You are taking away their hard-won right to not have their squee harshed. That's a civil right, I bet!

[Bluebear]

41. Also, all The Advocate, America's largest gay publication, does is WHINE!!!

:cry:

Oh the humanity!

[bobbolink]

59. We must have taken the same "pushing away" class, because I am doing it too.

"We bad, uh-huh, that's right... we bad."

[Bluebear]

61. "We bad, uh-huh, that's right... we bad."

:rofl:

[bobbolink]

62. It's no laughing matter, sonny boy. Just step back and look at all the destruction we have caused

by pushing people away from this forum!



There now, do you feel sufficiently chastised?

:hi:

[Bluebear]

63. Yikes!

Catholic guilt and I'm not even Catholic!

We are a major force to be reckoned with, pushing all our allies away. Go, us!

:hug:

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[Bluebear]

66. +

[laughingliberal]

67. +1000 nt

[Bluebear]

36. "All the whining is getting very tiresome." - Really, shame on you. And talk about spin.

'People that are bashing The White House and Obama on this issue are only hurting themselves by pushing away supporters.' - We don't need "supporters" like you. Really.

[Autumn]

43. Wrong. No one said the WH hasn't SAID anything

"no one has reached out to Republicans. White House legislative affairs is AWOL, " There is a difference there. But you are sort of right, "The White House and Obama on this issue are only hurting themselves by pushing away supporters."

[TheWraith]

10. So what, to make you happy they need to go out and stab John McCain?

Repeal is attached to the must-pass defense appropriations bill. The White House has announced their opposition to any deal to change that fact. There can be no more developments at least until the lame duck session starts on Monday. Why aren't you busy harassing Carl Levin? He's one of two remaining dangers, the other being Republican filibuster.

[dsc]

13. No they have to actually ask for votes

which, unless every single GOP Senator and staff member quoted are liars, they haven't been doing.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

15. But it's attached to the defense-appropriations bill.

So it's pretty much guaranteed to pass, much like the Byrd-Shepard Hate Crimes Act with the 2010 defense bill:

http://www.examiner.com/liberal-in-national/obama-signs-2010-defense-budget-bill-containing-expanded-hate-crimes-legislation

[dsc]

21. not if the GOP filibusters and then we cave

or even worse the GOP threatens to filibuster and we cave. So far they filibustered once. We lost 57 to 43 (needed 60). We are down to 55 unless Lincoln and/or Pryor change their minds or Manchain decides to vote for. We could have 58 votes if every Democrat votes yes but we then still need 2 GOP votes. I think we are more likely to need 4 or 5 GOP votes. I think at best we will see Lincoln vote yes but not Pryor or Manchain. The legislative affairs staff should be calling at least Collins, Snowe, Brown, Lugar, and Voinovich. I have no idea who the other 4 Republicans are that the Log Cabins think might be yes. Only Kirk might be he voted yes in the House but since changed his mind.

[TheWraith]

27. The Reps have filibustered a lot more than once.

Once again: a filibuster does not require constant talk. Hasn't for a very long time.

As to the vote, it's going to be basically a game of chicken. How many of the Reps are actually willing to stall the 2011 defense appropriations bill?

[dsc]

28. on the defense bill I think it was one time

I might be wrong but I think we only brought it up one time.

[TheWraith]

30. Okay, now I see what you mean.

I thought you meant filibustering in general. You're correct, the defense approps bill was only brought up once, during which even the Reps who supported repeal like Collins voted against it, allegedly in order to wait for the Pentagon study.

[TheWraith]

24. Well gee, I'm sure that Republicans would NEVER lie to make Dems look bad.

And I'm also sure that it's not like how the Republicans are going to vote is going to be determined by things other than whether the White House sends them a nice phone call.

[mitchtv]

25. Biden already has a deal with them

he told us so remember?

[TheWraith]

35. No, I didn't actually.

But then that qualifies as good news, so it's existence on DU goes unacknowledged. But on Googling the transcript, what he says sounds about right in terms of placating the few Reps we need. Realistically, how people are going to vote on this is going to be determined by a lot of other factors, not whether the White House is leaving them messages. There's basically no such thing as an uncommitted vote in the Senate anymore.

[AlinPA]

7. Oh, sure the republicans will really help them on this issue. Bullshit. nt

[Johonny]

11. +1

Only a Republican believes things these Republicans say. No one in the White House has reached out to them most likely a lie. They say the same thing on tax cuts, health care, financial reform etc. Some at the DU take these Republicans side because they agree with their issue. However there is no reason to believe what Republican elected officials tell them. They simply lie all the time.

[EFerrari]

14. Are you kidding? It WAS this Republican group

that got a stay on DADT. Which the administration in their fierce advocacy had to get overturned.

It's embarrassing when a Republican advocacy group gets more done than a Democratic president, isn't it?

[Tx4obama]

17. The republiccan group hasn't gotten anything done. CONGRESS must repeal DADT. n/t

[EFerrari]

19. Baloney on skates. They got a ruling that stayed discharges.

As you well know. CAPS do not provide a reason for Obama to challenge the ruling in the courts if CONGRESS must repeal.

[donco6]

33. They had it done, until Obama appealed it.

An appeal made KNOWING he was going to lose the House, BTW.

[Bluebear]

46. More misinformation. Why?

[TheWraith]

29. For the umpteenth time: appealing a court ruling against the government has nothing to do with Obama

The DOJ is specifically bound to pursue all legal arguments, for the exact reason of making sure that who is in the White House doesn't define which laws are protected and which aren't.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

49. Schwarzenegger didn't appeal the overturning of Prop 8

So that makes twice GOPers were ahead of Obama on gay civil rights.

[EFerrari]

50. Sorry. You're still wrong. n/t

[AlinPA]

34. That's wrong; the justice department is duty bound to repeal when a law is challenged. nt

[Bluebear]

39. I believe you mean appeal, but you happen to be wrong.

Do you think Gillibrand and Udall don't know the law?

http://markudall.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=756

[AlinPA]

47. oops, appeal it is. RE: Udall and Gillibrand, it's not clear to me now.

[EFerrari]

51. No, it isn't if the law is patently unconstitutional as this one is.

There are probably 50 threads in the archives explaining this. Plus, you can google it.

[Autumn]

44. Embarrassing my ass, It's humiliating.

But that's more than what's been done.

[Bluebear]

54. You said it.

[EFerrari]

55. Yep. Thanks for the reality check. n/t

[Bluebear]

45. You really don't know anything about this, do you?

[terrya]

12. Hell, I'll call Republican senators

if it means flushing this bigotry down the toilet once and for all.

I'll start with our new Republican Senator, Mark Kirk. He wants to be an "independent senator"? Here's his very first chance.

[Catherina]

16. If the White House were really interested in bipartisanship, here's a great test case.

Not holding my breath though.

[TheWraith]

31. The Log Cabin Republicans don't have a vote in the Senate. nt

[Ignis]

32. +1

[Tx4obama]

42. New Campaign '' Get Equal '' Announcement

Posted on Alan.com (Liberland) today

• The first Marine in the nation to be discharged under “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” Justin Elzie, tells Alan about a new campaign to get Congress to repeal the policy.

Link to the new campaign below:

http://getequal.org/2010/11/the-country-is-organizing-next-week-are-you/

[mitchtv]

52. time to disrupt

congress, senate,military bases, traffic. Whatever we can do make the public aware that life cannot go on as usual for straity

[pgodbold]

56. I love DU. Where else can you get drama like this for such a low low price! PS.

The ONLY reason Obama is appealing the DADT ruling is because he is embarrassed about being upstaged by a bunch of gay republicans!

No! My victory for the LGBT folks! Mine! Bad Cabins GO AWAY!

I should add that I have never voted for a republican in my life and never will.

[SidDithers]

58. Unrec...nt

Sid

[theHandpuppet]

60. Another surprise

NOT.

Talk about boring and predictable.

:boring:

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[Bluebear]

68. .

[B Calm]

65. The new republican congress will be on their side. Sarcasm!