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jancantor Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 01:23 PM
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Student told to remove flag from bicycle during Veteran's day. Outcry ensues. School reverses
note that California Education Code § 48950 applies to HIGH schools, and this wasn't a high school so those protections didn't apply. This code actually recognizes exceptionally broad free speech rights for students in California.

http://www.modbee.com/2010/11/13/1426780/denair-flag-flap-student-can-fly.html

Edward Parraz, superintendent of the Denair Unified School District, said that a campus supervisor asked Cody to remove the flag earlier this week out of concern for his safety.

Those concerns arose from a dust-up among students last school year after some racial tensions arose when Latino students brought Mexican flags to school around Cinco de Mayo.

“It’s one of those things that the campus supervisor was thinking in the best interest of Cody and it backfired on her,” Parraz said Friday. “I think it was the right decision with the wrong result. She feels miserable.”

Cody has had the flag on his bike since beginning of the school year and it was coincidental that it became a problem during the week of Veterans Day, which Parraz said is “the issue that made this look like Denair is the worst thing in the world.”
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 02:00 PM
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1. America's flag worship is a bizarre thing.
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jancantor Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 02:05 PM
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2. That may or may not be true
But I see no evidence of flag worship in this incident.
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 02:07 PM
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3. Without it...
Without flag worship, this incident could not have happened.
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jancantor Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 06:35 PM
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8. Ridiculous
A kid attaching a US flag to his bicycle does not necessarily worship the flag. Nice hyperbole.

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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 01:45 PM
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10. You assume he rides with a flag
because he likes the pretty colors?
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jancantor Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 11:48 PM
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11. Again, ridiculous
I am not assuming anything. YOU are assuming he "worships" the flag because he has one attached to the bicycle he rides to school. I said that assumption was ridiculous.

He MAY worship the flag, but that's not sufficient reason to assume so. I fly a flag at my house. I do not worship it. Fwiw, I also support the right to burn it.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 02:31 PM
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4. It's not unique to America
Edited on Sat Nov-13-10 02:32 PM by Raine
other countries love their flags too.

edit: typo
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 03:11 PM
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6. It's not unique to America, but the degree of reverence is uncommon
It goes far beyond love of flag, which is an odd thing in itself, and enters the realm of deification of an object. Not unique, but very uncommon. And very strange and disturbing.
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jancantor Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 06:46 PM
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9. Considering that our constitution protecs flag burning and in many
countries, it's criminal, at least our legal system disagrees.

In Denmark, interestingly, it is illegal to burn OTHER nation's flags, but not Denmark's.

It's illegal to burn the flag in Germany and Finland. I disagree that American's "worship" the flag. I think that's an overstatement to put it mildly. However, considering our National Anthem, it's clear that we as a nation have a lot of respect for our flag. I lost a lot of respect for Rachel Corrie when she burned our flag on foreign soil.

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humblebum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 02:35 PM
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5. Definite freedom of speech violation to force the issue. nt
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 05:40 PM
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7. Denair is a fly spec of a town. Sort of surprised it happened there.
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