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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 05:02 PM
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BEATING UP Nancy Pelosi
:applause:


"...Apparently feisty and fighting women enrage the GOP and their corporate sponsors. That's one conclusion to be drawn by reports that more money was spent, and more commercials aired, attacking the first woman Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, than any other congressional leader - ever.


From January through November's Election Day, more than $65 million was spent on 161,203 ads smearing Madam Speaker, according to a CNN-sponsored study. The money came from GOP candidate's campaigns, the Republican Party and so-called independent groups that supported the Republicans. The huge amount of cash that flooded into the midterm election campaign from corporate and other elite coffers were largely afforded secrecy by the recent Supreme Court Citizens United decision.


But anti-Pelosi ads really started in the spring of 2009 with the launch of the GOP's "Pussy Galore" smear. After Pelosi said the CIA misled congressional leaders (actually she said they lied) on torture and water-boarding interrogation techniques, the Republicans quickly scurried at the chance of vilifying Pelosi. They ran an ad equating Pelosi with a female criminal from Ian Fleming's James Bond series vulgarly named "Pussy Galore." Ms. Galore may have been the mildest and earliest Republican ejaculations. "Bitch," "hag," and "Wicked Witch" were to follow.


Pelosi's polling numbers, along with Congress as a whole - and the GOP's - plummeted. And the woman who was a chief architect of the Democrats winning in 2006 became a pariah for many. Being a woman from San Francisco (insert the coded words and images here) in the age of divisive tea party politics became the main narrative, and too many voters bought it.


Despite it all Pelosi proved to be a most effective House Speaker, moving and passing legislation that had stymied previous Congresses and administrations. Her tenacious leadership on health insurance reform changed the course of that struggle from hopelessness to hope and victory.


Many credit her skill and leadership in passing legislation that saved and created jobs (obviously not enough), invested in infrastructure and green jobs, curbed Wall Street and saved the U.S. auto industry.


But tradition's chains bind many in Washington. After the defeat of so many Democrats during the midterms, the scuttlebutt was Pelosi would fade into history and do the gentlemanly thing and give up her hard-won leadership stripes to a more GOP-appeasing group of Dems.:rofl:


Pelosi had something else in mind and announced she would run for House Minority Leader. Preparing for a big fight on job creation, taxes, Social Security, Medicare, Wall Street and insurance reform, Pelosi chose to tough it out and in the words of AFL-CIO's Richard Trumka continue to be a "tireless champion for working families," a "consensus and coalition" builder.


So far, there is no Democratic opponent to Pelosi's bid. But there has been talk about conservative Democrat Heath Shuler of North Carolina making a run, and other centrists like Reps. Mike Quigley of Illinois and Jason Altmire of Pennsylvania are voicing "discomfort" about Pelosi's bid.


Labor unions, progressive Democrats and other groups are launching a Thank Nancy Pelosi campaign, urging voters to tell Democratic congresspeople that Pelosi was an effective Speaker, and will be just as effective as an opposition leader. After all, they say, she "mans up."


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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 05:10 PM
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1. My problems with Pelosi have nothing to do with her gender.
Edited on Sat Nov-13-10 05:11 PM by ixion
The problem is that she was derelict in her duty. That is why.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 05:22 PM
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2. That Is Simply Nonsense
In no was was she 'derelict' in her duty.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 05:26 PM
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3. Not prosecuting the neocon cabal for war crimes? That is
Dereliction of Duty by definition.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 05:30 PM
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4. Prosecution Would Be Holder's Job
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Sirveri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 05:47 PM
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9. I suspect he's referring to impeachment being 'off the table'
That's the major thing stuck in my craw than Speaker Pelosi has done.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 06:09 PM
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14. Starting an investigation for impeachment was entirely Pelosi's job -- two years before AG Holder.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 06:45 PM
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15. Does Anyone Really Think That She Would've Been Successful With That?
I agree that taking it off the table was preemptive on her part but I also believe that in a caucus filled with blue dogs, a candidate (Obama) who was against it and the Cons on the other side she didn't have much chance of success and maybe she knew that. It would've been better if she just said nothing. That said, I would never describe her as being derelict in her job as speaker and as she may be the only bulwark against any nefarious bill that come forth, I'm counting on her to do her best to protect us.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 07:37 PM
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18. There was no candidate Obama in January 2007, when the Pelosi House arrived. Furthermore...
Edited on Sat Nov-13-10 07:39 PM by JackRiddler
There was overwhelming evidence of high crimes. In fact, there were proud assertions of high crimes by the criminals themselves. The evidence was well-documented in the Conyers report (which I mention among many other works because it came out of the Congress).

This was a constitutional and humanitarian obligation, not a political calculus as you seem to imply. It was and remains our duty to those murdered by the Bush regime.

Please feel free to double check the following, I have it from Harper's Index and it certainly fits in with what I remember:

Subpoenas issued to the White House between 1995 and 2000 - 1,050<1>
Subpoenas issued to the White House between 2000 and 2005 - 0

ZERO.

A few dozen subpoenas in 2007 could have, should have initiated the toppling of an American tyranny, one that seized power in a stolen election. And exposed a lot of deep state criminality that goes back long before 2000.

Instead we allowed (once again) that crime pays if the crimes are big and numerous and audacious enough. More will follow, and the last vestiges of a democratic republic will be extinguished as a result.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 08:43 PM
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20. I'm Sure Your Facts Are Correct
So I will only say this, she never does anything unless she's sure she has the votes and can succeed. I disliked her "off the table" statement and certain;y thought there were crimes to be investigated, unlike what Issa will bring against Obama. That said, the dems never think they have the winning hand on impeachment else they would've put both Nixon and Raygun on trial.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 05:16 AM
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23. It's not about 'success', as nice as that would be, it's about doing her job
and she failed miserably at that.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 05:30 PM
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5. Was that HER duty? How does that work? If there were to be
a trial, does Congress instigate it? Sincere question, just trying to understand where the DOJ or AG comes into play. Thanks.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 08:27 PM
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19. She could have launched an investigation, but it was "off the table"
which makes her an accomplice after the fact, when the neocons are finally tried for war crimes.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 09:26 PM
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21. Okay, thanks. I didn't realize it was up to Congress to get the ball rolling. nt
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 05:55 PM
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12. Correct. Caving to corporate power makes her worthless in my eyes
With no impeachment and no investigations into the previous administration Pelosi was doing the bidding of the corporate powers that control DC. Dereliction of Duty? I second that emotion.
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 06:05 PM
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13. Amen & Amen brother.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 05:31 PM
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6. She's been too successful. Being a woman just makes it that much
easier for them to hate her.

Assholes.
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 09:49 PM
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22. Assholes they definitely are gateley. I too wished she would have moved forward on some
Bushco investigations. The unfolding financial state of the country took precedence. I'm not trying to make excuses for her whatsoever but I will say that the Bluedogs who bark out claims that they could do a better job under the same conditions are just pissing in a head wind and couldn't even stand in Pelosi's shadow.
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Wounded Bear Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 05:37 PM
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7. She rammed the legislation through the House...
The senate killed her chances, primarily the Blue Dog "Democrats" in the Senate.

Typical RW hysteria about a powerful woman.
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Guilded Lilly Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 05:38 PM
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8. Republicans like their *women* to look *doable*
Then they like them to be easily manipulated.
Then they prefer them dumber than dirt.

Strong, mature and intelligent women scare them to death.
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 05:49 PM
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10. I drive past a pick-up truck with a "Waterboard Pelosi" bumper sticker.
Yeah. Which I take to mean that the driver of that vehicle endorses torturing a petite grandmother who simply happens to be a Democratic Speaker of the House. This image makes me feel that the person who drives that vehicle is a bad person.

I know where the phrase comes from--on the right, they joked about this with respects to her claim that the CIA lied about waterboarding as a way to "jog her memory" about being briefed, except it seems like the CIA did lie. And she didn't. But that the image of violently assaulting a woman just because one disagrees with her was distilled into two words to be slapped on a bumper sticker--and that there was a market for it, just sickens me.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 05:52 PM
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11. True...Major Mysogyny....I wonder who they hate more?...
Pelosi or Hillary?
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 06:53 PM
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16. K&R Big Business wouldn't have spent so much to demonize her if she was in their pocket
She is a REAL Democrat that's not sold out. And Republicans can't stand her.
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rgbecker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 07:23 PM
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17. If the Republicans hate her that much....I support her! NT
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