China to unveil its own large jetliner - with help from U.S. companies

[somone]

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-china-jetliner-20101113,0,4824354.story

November 13, 2010
China to unveil its own large jetliner
Beijing, which hopes to compete with Boeing and Airbus, will show off a full-scale mockup of its 156-seat passenger plane at an air show next week. It's getting help from some well-known U.S. companies.
David Pierson, Los Angeles Times

China is aiming to reshape the global aviation industry with a home-grown jetliner, a direct challenge to the supremacy of Boeing and Airbus, the world's only manufacturers of large commercial aircraft. The communist government has staked billions of dollars and national pride on the effort. What may surprise some Americans worried about slipping U.S. competitiveness is that some well-known U.S. companies are aiding China in its quest.

That partnership will be on display next week at an air show in southern China with the unveiling of a full-scale mockup of the C919. Slated for production by 2016, the 156-seat, single-aisle passenger plane would have its fuselage emblazoned with Comac, short for the state-owned Commercial Aircraft Corp. of China. But inside, the most crucial systems would bear the trademarks of some of the biggest names in Western aviation.

Honeywell International Inc. will supply power units, on-board computing systems, wheels and brakes; Rockwell Collins Inc. will handle navigation systems; GE Aviation is building the avionics; Eaton Corp. is involved with fuel and hydraulics; and Parker Aerospace of Irvine is responsible for flight controls. Powering the aircraft will be two fuel-efficient engines built by CFM International, a company co-owned by GE and French conglomerate Safran. China isn't content just to buy sophisticated gear for the C919; the government has required foreign suppliers to set up joint ventures with Chinese companies. That has put U.S. and European suppliers in a tough spot: Be willing to hand over advanced technology to Chinese firms that could one day be rivals or miss out on what's likely to be the biggest aviation bonanza of the next half a century. Honeywell alone has snagged contracts worth more than $11 billion for the project.

Roger Seager, GE Aviation's vice president and general manager for China, said he was confident that his company could protect its intellectual property. But the rapid rise of another Chinese transport industry — high-speed rail — challenges that notion. After sharing technology and expertise to help China develop a network of gleaming bullet trains, Japanese and European rail firms now find themselves competing with their former Chinese joint-venture partners for new contracts, both inside and outside China...

[Angry Dragon]

1. I get all giddy when I think of this level playing field with China

I remember Russia once saying that they would bury us.
That did not work
China never said it to my knowledge, they are just doing it.

[madrchsod]

2. surprise surprise.... china buys it`s r&d then....

destroys the market by under cutting the price of their raw and finished goods.

oh well, at least i can remember when our country was not full of cowards.

[Swede Atlanta]

3. China is the enemy..........

I have said for some time that our most visible enemy is militant extremist Islam but our true long-term enemy is China. They are shrewd and know how to win the economic game. And they are building their military. In 20 years the U.S. won't have the economic or military capability when China invades Taiwan and we will cower in the U.N. Security Council.

[Locrian]

4. lock stock and barrel

As part of those "partnerships" China is requiring MASSIVE training in design and engineering. It's painfully obvious what the outcome will be in 10 years.... and companies are falling over themselves to be their bitch (er... I mean partner)...

[AdHocSolver]

5. Capitalists selling America one company at a time. nt

[OlympicBrian]

6. China, oh China

The US nurtures China via offshoring and investment, without the slightest consideration of the long-term consequences. China is about to surpass the US in industrial production, and they are projected to surpass the US in the area of innovation by 2012. They are moving ahead quickly in the area of advanced manufactured products, relative to the US. China has the worlds largest and most advanced high-speed rail system. They are making far larger strategic investments in Africa than the US. China recently announced the worlds fastest supercomputer. Ironically, while China is relied on so heavily by US multi-national corporations, the US is on the brink of a trade war with them.

GE just announced a bunch of Chinese joint-venture partnerships:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703514904575603323946097564.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Egad:

"After sharing technology and expertise to help China develop a network of gleaming bullet trains, Japanese and European rail firms now find themselves competing with their former Chinese joint-venture partners for new contracts, both inside and outside China...