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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 07:45 PM
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Oh Look, a Contrail, Venus, Swamp Gas (not a missile) off the coast of Newfoundland
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 07:47 PM
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1. Unrec...nt
Sid
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 08:21 PM
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10. LOL !!!
:wtf:

:rofl:

:beer:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 09:18 PM
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20. go sid !!!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 07:57 PM
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2. That sure looks like a missile...
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 08:08 PM
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3. What was it?
The link goes to a story published in January. Was it ever determined what it was?
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 02:50 AM
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24. No. I found out about it a few days ago and tried to see if anything more was learned.
Just another one of the mysterious things moving around in, and apparently above our beautiful, mysterious world.

PB
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 08:10 PM
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4. Doctor Chaotica firing at Captain Proton ...
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 09:04 PM
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18. far to obscure a star trek reference for most
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 08:11 PM
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5. There is NO question that that is a missile moving to the left.
Two thirds of the length of the "object" is the flaming exhaust trail.

I can't imagine how anyone could be fooled into thinking that was anything other than that. I enlarged it in Photoshop and I can almost read the lettering on the side. The stepped shape, narrow at the top (left end) is characteristic of a lot of modern missiles. If I wanted to waste more than 2 minutes on it I could probably identify exactly what kind of missile.
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haifa lootin Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 08:16 PM
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8. LOL!
Good one! :rofl:
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 08:57 PM
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15. It's one of those really slow speed missiles
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 01:52 AM
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21. It's hard to judge the speed from a single still picture. Just saying... nt
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 12:01 PM
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29. There are these things called "words". They are published in "articles"

And if you want to know more about a picture, these "word" things can be read.

In this example, the accompanying article says it was visible for 15 minutes.

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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 08:12 PM
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6. According to the article, the French have a submarine named "Le Terrible."
:scared:
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haifa lootin Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 08:20 PM
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9. Which they bought from a Russian arms dealer named...Ivan
:evilgrin:
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 08:22 PM
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11. LOL
:thumbsup:
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 04:38 AM
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26. Might have been to do with this programme:
Edited on Sun Nov-14-10 04:49 AM by Ghost Dog
... Oct 22, 2006 (Aviation Week) ... A mammoth project to modernize France's nuclear arsenal will mark a milestone this year with the first land launch of the next-generation M51 ballistic missile.

Developed by EADS, the M51 will weigh half again as much as the existing M45, allowing it carry up to six warheads over an intercontinental range--classified, but in excess of 6,000-8,000 km.--with higher performance and safety margins. ...

In addition to vastly increased throwweight and accuracy, the M51 and its aerial adjunct, the improved ASMPA nuclear cruise missile, will offer greater operational flexibility. This is in line with France's changing nuclear doctrine--notably with respect to regional powers. In an address at the Ile Longue nuclear submarine base in Brittany on Jan. 19, President Jacques Chirac said France would reserve the right to strike strategic nerve centers with a graduated deterrent as a "final warning" to enemy aggression ...

A graduated deterrent--for example, ICBMs equipped with less than a full complement of warheads configured to explode at high altitude--could use electromagnetic shock waves to knock out enemy electronics, minimizing collateral damage.

-

The M51 SLBM is a submarine-launched ballistic missile, built by EADS Astrium Space Transportation, and deployed with the French Navy. Designed to replace the M45 SLBM (In French terminology the MSBS - Mer-Sol-Balistique-Stratégique “Sea-ground-Strategic ballistic”, it was first deployed in 2010.

Each missile carries six to ten independently targetable TN 75 thermonuclear warheads.

/... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M51_%28missile%29

Videos of M51 launches:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clsvbivrB70
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26C0dQJ8E-Q


- Hah. Perhaps, in order to save money, rather than decommissioning the replaced M45s, they decided to scrap them by firing them off into the Arctic.

Or, is it more likely there was a test to see how rapidly 3 M51s could be fired in succession (without the submarine blowing up)?

Saint-Pierre and Miquelon does include French territorial waters:

In 1992, a maritime boundary dispute with Canada over the delineation of the Exclusive Economic Zone belonging to France was settled by an arbitration court that was set up by Canada and France to resolve the dispute. In the decision, France kept the 12 nmi (22.2 km; 13.8 mi) territorial sea surrounding the islands and was given an additional 12 nmi (22.2 km; 13.8 mi) contiguous zone as well as a 10.5 nmi (19.4 km; 12.1 mi) wide corridor stretching 188 nmi (348.2 km; 216.3 mi) south. The total area in the award was 18% of what France had requested. The boundary dispute had been a flash point for Franco-Canadian relations. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Pierre_and_Miquelon

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haifa lootin Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 08:15 PM
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7. It's a meteor. Here, I cleaned up the picture a bit

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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 01:57 AM
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22. LOL!
Dude, that's twice tonight someone has posted something on DU which just cracked my shit up.

PB
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 08:25 PM
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12. Are we sure thats not
Edited on Sat Nov-13-10 08:26 PM by AsahinaKimi
The Human Torch?


:shrug:
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 08:38 PM
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13. Visible for 15 minutes, so it's not a missile
Missiles just don't stay up that long - in 15 minutes they go somewhere (no-one designs a missile to just hover around). For example, the Saturn V rocket, which was a slow thing near the ground, if you remember (it creeped off the launch pad, compared with the shuttle) was in orbit after about 11 minutes; and by that time, it was 1,640 miles away.

Without wings, missiles just can't have the fuel to stay up for 15 minutes - they're fighting gravity purely with fuel and oxidant. There are winged cruise missiles, of course; but they use jet engines, not rockets. And the question then becomes "can you tell the difference between a jet-propelled, winged, cruise missile and a jet-propelled, winged plane at a distance?"
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 03:16 AM
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25. I think you misread the article.
It's badly phrased but appears to say that, over a period of some 15 minutes, three apparent missiles were fired, beginning around 5pm.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 05:28 AM
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28. It's ambiguous
"Stewart and Pardy said the objects were visible in the sky for about 15 minutes. "

That sounds to me as if they were there together for 15 minutes, or that each was visible for 15 minutes; but it's possible that they were consecutive, and could have been as little as 5 minutes each. Nevertheless, 5 minutes is still a long time for rockets to be visible from once place. For instance, a V2 burnt for about 60 seconds, and that gave it a range of over 200 miles.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 08:42 PM
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14. I'm sure someone will come out and tell the easily fooled that it's another airplane
This is probably another show of force by someone against NATO.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 02:23 AM
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23. Showing their forceful low speed missiles

Ooooo scary
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 12:20 PM
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30. Veteran photographers are not so easily fooled...
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 09:00 PM
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16. It's a bird! It's a plane!
It's Supernotamissle!


Seneca Guns going off like mad off the coast of NC, crazy UFOs over NYC, "Notamissles" buzzing through the air on the coasts of the US and Canada.

I'm beginning to wonder :wtf: is going on. And the worst part is I have always loved the idea of taming a Gray and learning from it (translated: getting it to help me build stuff and do odd jobs around my house cheaper and easier.) Now, Stephen Hawking has said not to talk to them. I think he's smarter than I am, so I cannot tame one if I get to see one. My hopes and plans are ruined! I guess the Christmas cards will just be pictures of regular ol' family members again this year. :cry:

:scared:

:tinfoilhat:

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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 09:03 PM
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17. It's the aliens. Having gotten tired of flying saucers and
bored with making crop circles, they've come up with new ways to mystify and/or scare us.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 09:12 PM
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19. They're here to save us from
ourselves. The nuclear 'dust' is difficult to clean up off their credenzas.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 05:10 AM
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27. Love Missile F1-11?
Edited on Sun Nov-14-10 05:13 AM by NuttyFluffers
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