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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 09:11 AM
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Irony alert: Pope Ratz says new technology blurs the line between illusion and reality....
Unlike medieval church doctrine...... :think:



VATICAN CITY (AFP) – Pope Benedict XVI on Saturday warned that the Internet does not make people more humane but instead risks increasing a "sense of solitude and disorientation" among "numbed" young people.

"A large number of young people... establish forms of communication that to do not increase humaneness but instead risk increasing a sense of solitude and disorientation," Benedict told a Vatican conference on culture.

He also said that young people were being "numbed" by the Internet, adding that the technology was creating an "educational emergency -- a challenge that we can and must respond to with creative intelligence."

Benedict last month said the growing use of new technologies should set off "an alarm bell" as it was blurring the boundary between truth and illusion.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101113/tc_afp/vaticanreligionpopeinternettechnology


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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 09:15 AM
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1. News Alert for Pope Ratzinger (R): Earth Still Orbiting Sun
Edited on Sun Nov-14-10 09:18 AM by SpiralHawk
Since you have a tradition of getting things dead wrong and mercilessly persecuting others for being correct, a friendly reminder seems altogether timely. Your Republicon-style claims of 'Infallibility' are demonstrably WRONG WRONG WRONG - in the same way that Republicon 'claims' to be conservative are just total hogwash.

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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 09:16 AM
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2. Great point,
Edited on Sun Nov-14-10 09:17 AM by RandomThoughts
I commented that it was about taking things from people to get them mad or mean, he makes the correct statement that part of the goal is to break empathy. To make people numb to their fellow people, and by isolating people, it is possible to create that situation where people lose the ability to empathize with other people.

It takes a concentrated effort to try to find humanity and feeling when isolated by technical, or other tricks that can use many falsehoods in the delusions he mentions that can be created on things like TV and the Internet.

However it is possible to always find glimpses of what is real about life, anywhere you look.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 09:16 AM
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3. he`s a stupid old man
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haifa lootin Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 09:30 AM
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4. So the head cheese of one of the world's biggest corporation that sells imaginary products
to millions of gullible saps thinks more intelligence is going to improve his bottom line? He's about as smart as a bowling ball.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 09:46 AM
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5. Ironic indeed
seeing that the centerpiece of the ritual (the mass) involves transsubstantiation - the transformation of bread and wine into the LITERAL body and blood of Jesus Christ. Original hucksters that they are, the 'magical' term 'hocus pocus' is derived from their theological sleight of hand: hoc est corpus uttered at the exact moment that transsubstantiation is supposed to occur.

For me, what really seals the deal that 'hocus pocus' is derived from the Latin Mass is that the church — at some point in history – decided to throw in the virtually meaningless and superfluous word enim to break up the hoc est corpus phrase that was so common and so ridiculed as a magical incantation over the centuries. Hoc est corpus was just too easy to turn into 'hocus pocus,' so the Church made it hoc est enim corpus to break up the rhythm of the phrase.

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 10:07 AM
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7. As an alterboy who needed to 'learn' Latin for the mass, I did not know that.
Then again, the Latin we learned were not the actual meaning of the words...we simply memorized the phonetics so we could say our part during Mass. None of us really knew what any of the words meant until High School.

I remember one Mass in particular with our very old parish priest. I was the only alterboy serving and we were on the 2nd mass of the day. The old priest was a bit of an alcoholic...He'd drink quite a bit during the 1st Mass...having a shot or 2 of rye between the Masses and then really indulge in the 2nd mass. By communion, he was staggering. Just as he was going to serve up the hosts, he dropped the chalice. Being the helpful fella I was, I made a move to help pick up the wafers. He grabbed my cassock collar and boomed out "do not touch the body of Christ!" - that put the 'fear of God' in me right there. You do not mess with the BOC.

This former alterboy and practicing agnostic appreciates the language lesson!

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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 09:49 AM
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6. Irony alert: Pope Ratz says RELIGION blurs the line between illusion and reality....
there. fixed.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 10:18 AM
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8. This Internet is making Pope Ratz's life a living hell.
It's harder for the shepherds to control the flocks when the sheep can read about the shepherds' plans to fleece 'em. Now that the power of knowledge is available to almost every person who has access to a computer, the Pope is losing control of the message and the masses.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 10:21 AM
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9. There's some truth to the illusion of community which has come about from tech revolution
Many people are still lonely, depressed and isolated. Many people don't participate in civic activities as in generations past.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 10:27 AM
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10. From a RCC which has refused to be compassionate or humane ...?
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