More on the foiled military coup d'etat against FDR by American industrialists

[deminks]

I found a couple of interesting quotes here:

http://my.auburnjournal.com/detail/165024.html

(snip)

William Dodd, the US Ambassador to Germany, wrote to President Roosevelt:

"A clique of U.S. industrialists is hell-bent to bring a fascist state to supplant our democratic government and is working closely with the fascist regime in Germany and Italy. I have had plenty of opportunity in my post in Berlin to witness how close some of our American ruling families are to the Nazi regime.... A prominent executive of one of the largest corporations told me point blank that he would be ready to take definitive action to bring fascism into America if President Roosevelt continued his progressive policies. Certain American industrialists had a great deal to do with bringing fascist regimes into being in both Germany and Italy. They extended aid to help Fascism occupy the seat of power, and they are helping to keep it there. Propagandists for fascist groups try to dismiss the fascist scare. We should be aware of the symptoms. When industrialists ignore laws designed for social and economic progress, they will seek recourse to a fascist state when the institutions of our government compel them to comply with the provisions."

(snip)

In retirement, Gen. Butler was forgotten, but continued to wage a campaign against corporate fascism and the military-industrial complex until his death in 1940.

“I helped make Mexico - especially Tampico - safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China, I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested. During those years I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.” (Maj.Gen. S. D. Butler, 1933)

(end snips) emphasis mine

These industrialists/corporatists have been using angry mobs against themselves for a century, and probably more. Now, we have elected their pawns to Congress, and the former 'conservative' presidents put them on the Supreme Court. They care no more for your job status or your pension or your social network than a shark cares for the meal it just ripped apart. These people tried to overthrow democracy because it dared to regulate them to keep from ruining the country. Do you hear me now? A coup d'etat, and they were never punished. This is not conspiracy theory, it is fact. All of the robber barrons that made you eat rat sweepings in your sausage (or worse) are still out there unscathed. Our sin is that we don't hold them accountable because somehow all that money makes them admirable, shiny. We want to be like them. We say we will not be amoral like them if we had all that money. We say they will give us jobs once they have enough money. They will share. No, they won't. They will keep us angry with the help of the MEdia, and turn us against ourselves again.

/rant not off

[defendandprotect]

1. K&R for later -- but Americans should understand this isn't "conspiracy-free-America"....

[tom_paine]

9. That is simply not going to happen, not any kind of an awakening except the kind

the RW Authoritarians engineered in 1933 Germany, when psychologically, almost the exact same thing happened.

Thank God for us we don't have to face the everyday violence and brutality 1933 Liberals, Jews, and other Enemies of the Right had to face. For now anyway.

We now live in a nation where perhaps as many as 40% have not just a distorted version of recent and past history, rewritten for them by the RW Lie Machine, but a completely diametrically false vision of history in which false equivalency and other marketing trickery Hitler could only dream of.

We now live in a nation, and have lived for some time now, in which 100% factual, demonstrable truth is no match for orchestrated legions of RW Authoritarian lies.

We now live in a nation in which RW Authoritarian counter-narratives about recent history, most of them completely and demonstrably false, dominate almost every corner of Corporate Media, usually serving as foundation block of equally misleading false equivalency RW Lies or Corporate Media "stories" and false narratives.

People are fond of saying that we Americans aren't even as savvy as the Russian citizenry, who at least knew everything they were being told by their media was misleading, spun bullshit.

But how many decades did it take for the Russian citizenry to figure that out? How much direct brutal injustice and physical suffering did the Soviet citizenry have to endure to hammer the point home?

WE all know that modern RW Authoritarianism, in keeping with the trends in the rest of society, doesn't require 1/10,000th of the violence it did in it's Nazi incarnation. Just an occasional head stomping of a pinned young woman and a few Knoxville Unitarian Massacres does the trick these days for RW Authoritarians.

And as to the great massive herd of the American Subject Populace? I have had people literally tell me, "I won't believe anything is going on like that until I see white people being taken from their houses in the middle of the night."

Under the "nothing ever really changes but technology and energy usage" heading, it was written in the book "I Will Bear Witness" by Victor Klemperer of 1944 Germany where in his city Klemperer (a half-Jew, and decorated WWI veteran married to a gentile, who's status made him the last on the list to be be liquidated and therefore in the relative handful of German Jewish holocaust survivors) witnessed one of the final roundups of Jews to Auschwitz.

There was a crowd of onlookers, so Klemperer reports, and he heard many different people saying a variation of, "Why are they being arrested? They must have been doing something wrong."

This was in 1944 Nazi Germany! IMAGINE the denial required to say something like that at such a place in such a time.

None of us have to really stretch too much to imagine that level of denial, it exists in almost every corner of our National Dialog. In the almost literal fusion of the Corporate Media and the RW Lie Machine.

[Greyhound]

18. Excellent reply. It's really good to see your writing again, you've been away or I've managed to

miss your posts for quite some time.

But back to the reply; it becomes more pronounced here daily. Now, whether this represents true belief or just internet trolling I cannot say for sure, but I suspect the former. The realizations and resulting panic is growing.

[defendandprotect]

21. Would love to argue against what you're saying, but really can't ... HOWEVER...

either the public will wake up -- or suicidal elites will wake up --

or NATURE will play the final cards.

As for media --

Butler claimed that the conspirators promised him $30 million in financial backing and the support of most of the media.

I do think the violence is an open question, however -- it really is the only way the right wing

can rise and we've had millennia of it -- but at least 50 plus years of right wing political

violence in plein air which took not only our president but our people's government, MLK, Jr.,

Bobby Kennedy and any liberal leadership which even threatened to rise.

Europeans long recognized that saying: "In America, liberals and progressives have an odd way

of being assassinated or otherwise eliminated."

As for the trickery, there is still much to learn but basically EVERYTHING the right wing has

was bought and paid for -- GOP gave start up funding for the Christian Coalition -- Richard

Scaife financed Dobson's org and other wealthy right wingers financed Bauer's org.

Certainly GOP has used the NRA politically to target liberal and moderate Democrats.

Pro-life murderers, of course -- evidently many of those who demonstrated outside women's

clinics were solicited from methadone clinics and paid.

CIA -- which took money from any right wing sources, including Nazis and KKK, supported right

wing members of Congress -- two I'm aware of were Sen. Strom Thurmond and Rep. Gerry Ford.

Evidently there were others. This was learned at the time of Wm. Buckley's death/CIA.

Pat Buchanan also got CIA -- so did Sen. Jesse Helms.

US/CIA created the Taliban and Al Qaeda and US went into Afghanistan 6 months before the Russians

came in "in order to bait the Russians into Afghanistan ... in hopes of giving them a

Vietnam-type experience." US created, wrote, printed those violent Islamic text books we heard

so much about and shipped them into the ME in an effort to create a violent Islamic movement.

Re Nazi Germany ... I also recall hearing about a woman who asked her priest whether she could

give the Jews being herded off a piece of bread. Gertrude Stein, the poet, went into Germany

immediately after the war to talk with Germans -- and her conclusion was that "they were obedient."

Europeans had long lived with vile propaganda against the Jews -- it had been taught for more than

1,400 years! Not so dissimilar to "The Hammer of Witches" and its aftermath. The ground is made

fertile for murder -- in advance of it.

The insanity of the wars following 9/11 not withstanding, we have immense numbers of people

nationally and internationally against these wars.

At best we seem to be looking once again at a schizophrenic script -- but what we do know is

that the right wing has to control ALL of media -- TV, radio, publishing -- and I imagine

soon internet because any bit of truth is a huge threat to them -- it's like a pebble hitting

a mirror -- it shatters the myth.

I'm not sure about the Russians -- but it didn't take either side very long to react to

JFK's peacemaking and near-ridicule of the Cold War. The threesome -- JFK, Kruschev and

Pope Pius XXIII -- were liberalizing influences which took everything away from the right

until violence brought it back again.



I'd also remember that we are still voting on computers -- and MSM is still using the

LARGE computers which gives them their immense power to PREDICT and CALL elections and

as we saw in 2000, to REVERSE a PREDICTION! These computers have been in play since

the mid-and-late-1960's -- just about the time that America was passing The Voting Rights Act.


Patriarchy and its underpinning =

Organized patriarchal religion and its economic invention =

Capitalism =

The Unholy Trinity

[Octafish]

2. Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler, USMC, mentioned by name Brown Brothers Harriman and Prescott Bush...

And their then-young whippersnapper, Prescott S. Bush, future U.S. Senator and father and grandfather of U.S. "pretzeldents."

Thank you for posting this outstanding article, deminks.

Smedley Darlington Butler

EXCERPT...

Butler also named Prescott Bush as one of the conspirators. At the time Bush was along with W. Averell Harriman, E. Roland Harriman and George Herbert Walker, managing partners in Brown Brothers Harriman. Bush was also director of the Harriman Fifteen Corporation. This in turn controlled the Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation, that owned one-third of a complex of steel-making, coal-mining and zinc-mining activities in Germany and Poland. Friedrich Flick owned the other two-thirds of the operation. Flick was a leading financial supporter of the Nazi Party and in the 1930s donated over seven million marks to the party. A close friend of Heinrich Himmler, Flick also gave the Schutz Staffeinel (SS) 10,000 marks a year.

On 20th November, 1934, the story of the alleged plot was published in the Philadelphia Record and the New York Post. Four days later the McCormack-Dickstein Committee released its preliminary findings and the full-report appeared on 15th February, 1935. The committee reported: "In the last few weeks of the committee's official life it received evidence showing that certain persons had made an attempt to establish a fascist government in this country... There is no question that these attempts were discussed, were planned, and might have been placed in execution when and if the financial backers deemed it expedient."

Although the McCormack-Dickstein Committee claimed they believed Butler's testimony they refused to take any action against the people he named as being part of the conspiracy. Butler was furious and gave a radio interview on 17th February, 1935, where he claimed that important portions of his testimony had been suppressed in the McCormack-Dickstein report to Congress. He argued that the committee, had "stopped dead in its tracks when it got near the top." Butler added: "Like most committees, it has slaughtered the little and allowed the big to escape. The big shots weren't even called to testify. Why wasn't Colonel Grayson M.-P. Murphy, New York broker... called? Why wasn't Louis Howe, Secretary to the President of the United States, called? Why wasn't Al Smith called? And why wasn't General Douglas MacArthur, Chief of Staff of the United States Army, called? And why wasn't Hanford MacNider, former American Legion commander, called? They were all mentioned in the testimony. And why was all mention of these names suppressed from the committee report?"

CONTINUED w/LINKS...

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAbutlerSD.htm

Truth. It's what Democracy needs.

[defendandprotect]

19. Allen Dulles also played a large role in the financing of Hitler .... does it seem odd

that he's not mentioned in this conspiracy --

His law firm was Cromwell & Sullivan which raised money for Hitler.

Love Brig. Gen. Smedley Darlington Butler and didn't know he ran for the Senate.

Thanks for the link -- lots in there I didn't know --

Is the Louis Howe mentioned the man who allegedly got Eleanor into speechmaking?

This is interesting .... to lead a coup against FDR ....

Butler claimed that the conspirators promised him $30 million in financial backing and the support of most of the media.

American Liberty League the main organization behind the plot --
Main backers Du Pont family, leaders of U.S. Steel, General Motors, Standard Oil, Chase National Bank, and Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company.

Also interesting how HUAC which was established to investigate right wing and was turned against
liberals. And Nixon's efforts for them!

Interesting also how W. Averell Harriman was thought of later as a liberal?

ALSO ... unclear at the moment whether Prescott Bush's moment as "Trading With the Enemy"
came before or after this? Prescott's funds were confiscated and he was charged with
creating front companies to raise money for Hitler. Must have been before this but how is
it none of this got tied together? Very odd indeed!

Ironically, Prescott and Allen Dulles then "wrapped themselves in the flag" -- Dulles to do

intelligence work for the nation!!! Wow!

[jody]

3. Wikipedia Business Plot also the Plot Against FDR and the White House Putsch is a starting point.

I have copies of the following books in my personal library.

"The Plot to Seize the White House" by Jules Archer

"1000 Americans: The Real Rulers of the U.S.A." by George Seldes
NOTE all Seldes books are worth reading

"Du Pont Dynasty: Behind the Nylon Curtain" by Gerald Colby

[girl_interrupted]

4. K&R

[OHdem10]

5. Just made Legal today. Corporations are people. COC is fast

getting everything it pushed in the elections.

The posting of this incident in American is so
very important.

How does not maxim go? He who IGNORES HISTORY is bound
to repeat it.

This story should be run every 8 hours for maximum
exposure. Teaching of History has not been one
of our strong polls.

[jody]

10. CU's George Norlin Library "WHO KNOWS ONLY HIS OWN GENERATION REMAINS ALWAYS A CHILD"

I'm a CU grad

[defendandprotect]

20. It is governmen which creates corporations ... we are watching as sovereign

governments are being overtaken and destroyed by their own creation!!

[Gabi Hayes]

6. I don't remember anything in Archer's book about the OP. do you recall if there was

any mention of that?

makes it even more disgusting

I used to axe people all the time about the business plot (especially when arguing with wingnuts about mostly anything, but not one person I've ever talked to had heard of it, and most of them were pretty well-read....even the RW cranks)

I don't even bother anymore

[jody]

7. Archer's entire book is about the OP. n/t

[lunatica]

8. Video of Smedley Butler's "War Is A Racket" speech

This is where the above quote (see below) comes from. It's an actor saying it, not Butler himself.

“I helped make Mexico - especially Tampico - safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China, I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested. During those years I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.” (Maj.Gen. S. D. Butler, 1933)

Here is a video of Butler http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMEI8bnbw1o&feature=related

With Corporations going global there is no need to take over with a coup. Governments are powerless against Capitalism.

[Mimosa]

11. K&R (and thanks, Lunatica.)

[L0oniX]

12. Super K & R ...corporations are our enemies.

[felix_numinous]

13. K&R

I am afraid that by the time enough people wake up to actually do something about these robber barons, they will have done unimaginable damage to the environment and it's inhabitants. But I am so glad to see so many people of true conscience tenaciously sticking by this important message. The day of reckoning can only come if everyone continues speaking out.

[Starry Messenger]

14. k&r

[jody]

15. k&r

[TheUnspeakable]

16. k&r

[Odin2005]

17. K&R. This is something TPTB will never be allowed taught to kids in history class.

When I first learned about the Business Plot in College US History I was shocked.