Barbara Bush had doctors save her miscarried fetus in a jar

[OKDem08]

and then showed it to the teenaged George W. Bush. WTF? "Decision Points" is really creepy.

[GCP]

1. She is one sick fuck eom

[madrchsod]

2. the whole family are a bunch of inbred sick fucks

[GSLevel9]

3. actually...

doctors even today recommend if fetal matter is present to place in a container and rush to the hospital with the fetal matter for testing.

but I guess your version is more entertaining.

[RaleighNCDUer]

19. self delete

[Fruittree]

4. I don't really care for Barbara Bush but I thought she

carried the miscarried fetus to the ER in a jar and showed it to GWB - which in itself is a bit odd. There is a certain logic to keeping a miscarried fetus in order to be sure the entire fetus has passed and there isn't something left which will cause hemorrhaging. I may be wrong but I think that's what I've heard..

[XanaDUer]

5. Too bad she couldn't have stuck Georgie Jr. in a jar

with LOTS of formaldehyde.

[Kolesar]

7. How do you know she didn't?

Have you ever heard that guy try to speak??

[XanaDUer]

10. Heh

You could be right.

[Vegetarianist]

6. nice job distorting the facts and turning a miscarriage into a political attack n/t

[JBoy]

8. How is the OP distorting facts? What are the facts?

[bbinacan]

16. Because it is SOP

to take a fetus miscarried at home to the ER. Is that CLEAR ENOUGH for you?:grr:

[spotbird]

23. Where?

Even if it was legal, it would have been out of character since they didn't even have a funeral for the daughter who died of leukemia.

The fetus story is a lie, it's incredible that anyone believed a word of it.

[bbinacan]

25. Put this in your pipe and smoke it.

But Barbara Bush's decision to store and transport the fetus for medical inspection will hardly shock any woman who's undergone a miscarriage at home. I didn't use a glass jar; I used a Tupperware container, which my husband mercifully disposed of — along with the rest of the Tupperware set, because seeing it, let alone using it, was too distressing — after my doctor analyzed what's known in the OB/GYN business as “POC”: products of conception. I, like Barbara Bush, was not engaging in maudlin behavior. Women are typically instructed to bring the contents of a miscarriage to their doctor's office or hospital for examination. It's doctor's orders, not a creepy scene from some prenatal horror flick.

Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2010/11/11/george-w-bush-his-mom-and-her-fetus-not-so-weird-after-all/#ixzz15J6kT3L4

:banghead:

[mopinko]

26. yup. path exams on "poc" have been sop forever.

still done today. wtf?

[Ilsa]

9. I was wondering: did you hear about how this topic came up?

It was because W said that he became "prolife" when Babs showed him the fetus in a jar. W made his mother's miscarriage political and publicized it.

[Kolesar]

28. You get the A+

Gold star !

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[bbinacan]

17. Here's a little clarification

“Let's put ourselves in Barbara Bush's position,” says Kristen Swanson, the study's lead investigator and a nurse who is also dean of the nursing school at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (UNC). “She's home, bleeding, cramping and passes the fetus. She scoops it up, puts it in a jar and says, Drive me to the hospital. She says to her son, I'm in the middle of a miscarriage, and this is the fetus that I just passed. There is nothing sinister in this.”

Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2010/11/11/george-w-bush-his-mom-and-her-fetus-not-so-weird-after-all/#ixzz15IxQHnZG

:eyes:

[Demoiselle]

11. Barbara Bush has said many things that I don't like at all..

and her family has a history of reckless and stupid behavior that has put our country in a terrible pickle. But I have to feel a little sympathy for her. Remember, she lost another child, GW's younger sister, to leukemia (or some other childhood cancer, I can't remember exactly) when the little girl was four. In her own words, she and her husband had a terrible time talking about it, thinking about it. My impression was that they were incapable of handling the terrible event or helping the other children handle it. As you know, very young children, like GW at the time, often blame themselves for tragedies over which they have no control. It seems to me that the truly weird fetus in the jar thing is more evidence of Barbara's inability to deal with the first tragedy.

I know, I know that many people have suffered even worse than the Bush family....and don't have the financial resources to cushion their lives, but still, the thought of losing a little child
is so painful to me, that I must spare Barbara Bush a sympathetic thought. She may well be more than a little mad.

[onethatcares]

13. imagine the families

that grieve due to her sons insistence on invading Iraq. Those families are on both sides of the spectrum.

I'm afraid I care no more for her and her feelings than she does for me and mine.

[Demoiselle]

15. Of course. I imagine their grief all the time.

I can spare her a little bit of sympathy. It doesn't change my anger at her son, or my wish that he be held accountable.

[onethatcares]

29. usually kids learn what they live

in order for that to happen the parent has to be the teacher. I'm always amazed that kids can be taught to share, then two years later, taught to hate with such ferocity they'll kill.

I spare her no sympathy.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

12. That's pretty darned disturbing IMHO

However, I think most of the tactics of the anti-choice movement are equally bizarre and psychologically damaging, even moreso than the procedure that they claim to be trying to "protect" women from getting.

Their putting out "wanted" posters of doctors should in and of itself be a terroristic act IMHO.

There is NOTHING "pro-life" about the anti-choice movement.

[hlthe2b]

18. She miscarried. I detest her, but your facts are very wrong.

She saved the fetus to show the doctor (for whatever reason, but presumedly to see if they could find out what went wrong with the pregnancy).

That she showed it to GWB is very bizarre and undoubtedly caused him psychological distress, but she did not "ask the doctors to save the fetus in a jar..."

[petronius]

20. There are a lot of reasons to criticize or dislike the entire Bush clan, but

this isn't one of them, IMO. Even if there wasn't a medical reason, as others have suggested, I can imagine there might be a great deal of anguish involved in a miscarriage. I'm not going to jump on someone for odd or even irrational behaviors in such circumstances...

[live love laugh]

22. Sorry..I can buy the jar explanation for medical reasons--But showing GWB is batshit craziness. nt

[petronius]

24. I didn't say it made sense to me, just that criticizing someone for bizarre

behavior during a time of stress is (IMO) wrong.

I have no idea why she did it - maybe she wanted him to have a chance to 'meet' a sibling, or she thought it would help him understand her sense of loss, or something. Thankfully, I've never been in that situation...

[Kolesar]

27. Was this during her drunkenness period?

Mine officially ended three months ago. Ok, three decades but I quit drinking alcohol last summer.

[Cid_B]

21. There are some sick folks here...

It's not like she put it on the mantle ferfuckssake....

Some dark nasty folks here....