Who are these people?

[Uben]

Who wants Americans to go bankrupt and starve because of medical problems? They must be the majority because it is still happening. Who is it that is so greedy they want their neighbors to go without food and heat and decent clothing? Who wants to see kids with their teeth rotting in their mouths because they can't afford dental care? Who wants to see a single mom lose her job because she can't afford the upkeep on a clunker to get her to work? Who is it that wants people to be satisfied with a service job that pays minimum wage but does not provide even the essentials necessary to survive?

We know who they are. They are republicans. The GOP. Greedy old people! I lost faith in people years ago when they stopped caring about anyone but themselves. When greed was accepted by an entire politcal party. That's why I never have and never will vote republican. The sad part is, their numbers seem to be growing as fast as the number of homeless and starving here in America.
This is not the country I grew up in. People have lost focus on what is right and what is wrong. What is necessary. They don't care. They block it from their memory and refuse to see it so they won't feel guilt about causing it.

One of the things that irks me the most is listening to one of these people complain about the economy because their millions in the bank aren't making much money and they can't afford that vacation to the Riviera this season, or their kids tuition at Yale is so expensive they have to drive a three year old car. The rich are such a pitiful bunch.

The really sad part is a lot of republicans are needy, too, they are just too ignorant to know they are voting against their own interests. They believe what their told. Why else would any human being listen to the likes of a Rush Limbaugh or a Glen Beck?

You can make a difference. If you can, donate food and clothing now. Go open your pantry and closets right now and pull out the stuff you don't want, don't need, or would like for someone else to have. Look up the local food banks or missions in your area and send them a few bucks if you can. Send that family with four kids down the street a ham or a thanksgiving dinner.

I may not die wealthy, but I will die proud, knowing I tried to be a part of the solution. How about you?

[saigon68]

1. Let me be the First to K & R this

[tomm2thumbs]

2. huge K&R - thanks for posting

[geckosfeet]

3. Aside form the 'greedy old people' crack, I agree. GOP greed knows no age boundaries.

[mwb970]

4. The leaders and financiers are greedy. The largely older, sheeplike followers are clueless.

The greedy have enlisted the clueless to work tirelessly against their own interests (and mine, and the nation's).

One of the most tragic aspects of American society today is that the profoundly un-American people driving the increased inequality and increased suffering we see all around us today have been provided with a built-in, ready-made cadre of angry, religious, uneducated, misinformed citizens all fired up to promote corporate fascism and the interests of the super-rich in general. Watching these people rail and rail against the government (which represents them) and in favor of the corporations (which represent only themselves and their greedy owners) is just heartbreaking. For this American, at least.

[geckosfeet]

6. I object to the characterization of older people as sheeplike followers as well.

Your obsession with the older population borders on discriminatory.

There are clearly old people in all political camps. To demonize one group in this manner is divisive.

[mwb970]

7. "Obsession"? Good grief. I wrote one short post. Do you know what "obsession" means?

In any case, Fox "News" has by far the oldest demographic of any cable channel. Why would this be?

[geckosfeet]

10. - defending your position that old people are conservative RW teabaggers.

I am not impressed.

[Uben]

9. I am an old person, my friend

I didn't use that expression to denigrate old people, it was just a spur of the moment thing that worked. I should not have said it, and I apologize. MAybe it's because I live in a retirement community and the ones I see are old and greedy. They have the means to help others, but they don't. And, they are not the majority. Most are very good people, but there are some I truly despise. Sorry for my slip.

[geckosfeet]

11. As am I. And I take great offense when I am characterized as a teabagger.

Sorry if I am coming off a little strong about it.

[Uben]

12. I thought that post was directed at me, .....

I see now you were talking to another member. Exsqueeze me!

[demwing]

5. There is something about the American Psyche

that loves a fighter. We see ourselves as scrappy and not about to be pushed around. We laugh when Will Ferrell mocks a George Bush debate moment, fumbling for an answer, eventually being left with nothing to say except for "Don't Mess With Texas!" but many Americans actually do feel just that way about our country - "Don't mess with Texas" becomes "Don't mess with America (because we'll kick your ass and take your oil)." We are steeped in Old West mentality. Our heroes have ever been soldiers and cowboys - men with more balls than brains, who settle their differences with a shotgun and a shot glass.

Right or wrong, Americans love a fighter. Fighters need a cause for which to fight, and a fighter needs to be willing to risk it all for a chance to win. Fighters don't always have to be winners (though it helps), they just have to be willing to fight for what they believe in, even in the face of overwhelming odds. No one even cares what you believe it, you just need the courage of your convictions

Republicans have successfully tapped into this imagery. Democrats have not.

Democrats are more civilized, and are willing to talk it out and compromise for the long term good. THIS is why, in my opinion, Democrats have been struck with the image of being weak, even though we know the opposite to be true. Democrats are just as patriotic - maybe more so, than Republicans. We just don't have the courage of our convictions.

For example - do you think anyone would have cared if Bill Clinton had sex with Monica Lewinsky if he had just stood up and said "This is NONE of your damned business, this is between me and my wife, and you all can go to hell!" ? I don't.

What hurt Clinton was his attempt to hide behind words. Fighters don't hide behind words.

What is hurting Obama right now is not his Democratic or Progressive policies. It is his seeming unwillingness to fight back in a manner in which the people, right or wrong, can understand.

Those who say that Obama is just being pragmatic in his bi-partisanship don't understand the real pragmatism that is being missed - we know the rules of the game, we know how the judges will score, and yet we continue to pretend that none of it matters. The vast majority don't WANT bi-partisanship- WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE PARTIES.

American's want someone who (right or wrong) will stand up for what they believe, someone who won't get pushed around, someone who won't get fooled again. Someone who is ready to risk it all for the chance of winning.

Right or wrong.

[jody]

8. Good points. Please add that those who accept govt. assistance also accept govt. intervention in

their personal lives.

'Cause I'm the Mommy, That's Why! can quickly become 'Cause I'm the Government, That's Why!.

Those who accept government free lunches pay for them with lost freedoms as individuals. :shrug: