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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 10:04 AM
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A Harsh Reality: America Is Facing A Depression
A Harsh Reality: America Is Facing A Depression
posted with permission from http://sane-ramblings.blogspot.com/2010/11/america-in-denial.html

These are the ugly facts your government and the news media don't want to discuss: The U.S. government brings in 61 cents for every dollar it spends, is fighting wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen, can no longer pay its bills without borrowing and printing huge sums of money and is on the verge of financial collapse.

It shipped the most powerful manufacturing base the world had ever seen overseas and now runs record trading deficits. In America it manufactures fighter jets it doesn't need and weapons including nuclear arms it hopefully will never use. 70% of the U.S. economy is shopping, buying goods from overseas and borrowing the money to do it. While our schools, once the world's best, are sinking into mediocrity.

The U.S. has nearly 15 million unemployed and millions more underemployed or no longer counted. Fannie and Freddie have 4.4 million home foreclosures they hold hoping for a better economy and more foreclosures coming. Meanwhile, corporate thieves through their lobbyists steal every nickel they can.

So what action is our government taking to confront these problems? NONE! We are in denial. Yet the situation is so desperate the Fed launched another $600 billion stimulus so politicians can avoid facing these problems. But we are so deep in debt, instead of borrowing it, the Fed is printing the money out of thin air.

As an American who loves his country, I am disgusted. How about you? It is time for action and you and I must get involved for casting a vote is not enough. We must raise our voices, letting the news media know what we think, for politicians pay attention to them. It is also essential to speak to our politicians and attend rallies, vigils, protests and other affairs to make our presence known.

What can we do to save America's finances? We need to get out of the wars ASAP. Those wars benefit only the contractors who profit off them and we as a nation have nothing to accomplish in them nor do we have the money to waste on them.

We must also dramatically slash the Federal Budget at least 10%. And everything is on the table including Military, Medicare, Social Security, Education and Health Care Reform. This is reality! We're broke and putting everything on credit cards that are being maxed out! We must make tough choices. The Republicans speak of shrinking the government, well now it's time. And by shrink, that includes the massive military contractors like Lockheed and Northrop who are little more than military extensions at taxpayer expense.

As for taxes, I don't want to pay them either but the U.S. government is desperate. All of us beyond the society's bottom rungs must pay, including Exxon Mobil, General Electric and other corporate giants who now pay little or nothing.

Don't fool yourself. The government will go broke if we don't do something now. The only question will be whether we slash spending far more radically than I'm proposing or tax ourselves more or do neither and try to print money to pay our bills which will bring staggering inflation and destroy the dollar and our savings.

But there is good news as well. America has faced tougher challenges in the past and always rose to the occasion. We as a people are resilient and willing to bear the pain as long as we have leadership that will listen to us, welcome us into the decision process, communicate honestly with us and guide us to a better future and restore the dignity and compassion of our nation.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 10:07 AM
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1. The harsh reality is that the American Empire, like all empires, is coming to an end.
Unbridled military spending with foreign wars and far flung military bases accompanied by more and more wealth concentrated at the top will cause its collapse.

I feel sorry for young people today. Very sorry.
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 10:15 AM
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2. I concur. n/t
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 10:18 AM
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3. I don't want to discuss anything until the DOD
And pentagon budgets are cut, taxes on the rich are raised, loopholes for
Off-shoring are slammed just with appropriate tax
Breaks given for creating jobs at home, investigate
The Cayman banks, etc
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 10:21 AM
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4. +rec to much gutting from the rich
Edited on Tue Nov-16-10 10:21 AM by meow mix
now they are bringing our contry down
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 11:13 AM
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9. +100000000000000000000000000
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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 10:45 AM
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5. The depression is here now, 3rd world status is what we're facing.
I've been looking at emigrating somewhere else, I just hope I can get the hell out of here before things start to resemble Liberia, Niger, Sierra Leone, etc.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 10:45 AM
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6. But Reagan proved "Deficits don't matter"
:shrug: As long as Republicans have any control things will never get better..That statement comes from a very simple reading of history.. Every time Republicans gain control the economy shudders and falters while the extremely wealthy get even more so..
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 10:46 AM
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7. I Have a Great Idea... Let's Send More Jobs Overseas!!!!
what our government has done is criminal and treasonous to the American tax payer.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 01:39 PM
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18. But...but...but...we have to be more centrist!!
This past election proved that this is a center-right country which means we have to embrace centrist policies like more free trade deals. Which 80% of Americans oppose but...whatever. We have to be more centrist!!
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 02:18 PM
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19. The elite few Have Way Too Much of an Impact on our Democracy
it's time to crush them.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 10:54 AM
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8. Indeed... we've already started down that path
most people just refuse to acknowledge it yet, hoping that things will return to the way they were, which they will not, of course.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 11:22 AM
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10. So how much of the economy is deficit and debt? nt
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 11:26 AM
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11. The Ilegal Invasions were always meant to be the FINAL PUSH IN THE HISTORIC LOOTING.
Edited on Tue Nov-16-10 11:27 AM by WinkyDink
As IF there is another raison d'etre??
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 11:42 AM
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12. Why slash the programs that made us great???
WTF. I agree with the war analysis. End them now and cut the military and weapons spending. But instead of trashing our health safety nets, our system for keeping the elderly out of poverty (which is where many were before S.S.) and our schools, why not bring jobs back? Why doesn't anyone ever suggest that?

I don't trust the message in this article.
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 01:18 PM
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15. The author responds to your comment...
He says, I don't like cutting our health safety nets any more than he does and I qualify for Medicare, nor do I want to yank the safety net out from under the elderly. But every major budgetary item must be put on the table so we can make intelligent decisions.

As for bringing the jobs back, as he asked, it won't happen because U.S. businesspeople are always searching for the cheapest labor.

But what could happen is to create entire new industries as the Silicon Valley is currently in the early stages of doing in the biosciences and with clean energy. It is from the Silicon Valley, Apple, Oracle, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Hewlett Packard and many other high tech big employers were born.

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 11:47 AM
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13. Rec'd n/t
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 12:39 PM
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14. There goes the bathwater - and the baby.
Simply cut the military by 30% and we wouldn't have to touch ANY other program to regain solvency. Just pack up and leave Iraq & Afghanistan (and Somalia, and Yemen, and Colombia, and Indonesia, and everywhere else where we are mixing on other nations' affairs) close 4 out of 5 overseas bases - and we would STILL have the largest, most widely deployed military in the entire world. Do we really believe that 150 foreign bases are not enough? How many does China have? How many does Russia have? How many does Iran have?

We need to go back to the original designation of the 'War Department'. Calling it the 'Defense Department' is just a set up for spending hundreds of billions on threats that 'might' exist - while not protecting us from the threats that DO exist, I might add. When somebody's sabre rattling gets to loud, THAT is when we respond, and respond as a nation going to war. The Defense Department has NEVER defended us, no matter how much they claim to have. Every fight we've been in for the past 70 years has been one that WE have picked (with the possible exception of Korea - but then WE were not attacked, South Korea was, and we were just in the way).

We were oh so prescient in forcing the Soviet Union to bankrupt itself with a war in Afghanistan - so why can't we see that we are doing the same fucking thing to ourselves?
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 01:34 PM
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16. re: Simply cut the military by 30% and we wouldn't have to touch ANY other program....
I think that would be a good start, but cutting 700 billion by 30%, that would be 210 billion. That might help pay the interest on our current debt, but would not solve all our fiscal problems. If you don't want to cut social programs (and I know I don't want to), then taxes must be raised as well - either way, we will have to get along with less.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 01:38 PM
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17. we're broke b/c the rich do not think they should pay taxes
EVERY OTHER WESTERN DEMOCRACY

is able to afford health care for its citizens and a social safety net for its poor, elderly and infirm.

So, sorry. I do not agree that everything is on the table.

What should be on the table are the sacred cows of the last thirty years - entitlement programs for the wealthy.

Until that happens, count me out of this "revolution."
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 05:55 PM
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20. The author responds to your comment...
Please inform RainDog the U.S. government is now borrowing $5 billion every business day, an all-time record. And that if we don't take action now we will bear horrific financial consequences.
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 05:57 PM
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21. not possible. the recession ended in June. they said so.
so it must be true.
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