Hey, did you know the Confederate flag is 'a symbol of Jesus Christ.'? Really, it's true!

[sufrommich]

It's very clear by now that a lot of Arkansans walked into the voting booth Nov. 2 and simply filled in the bubble next to anyone's name that didn't have a "D" beside it. The reasons for that will be worried over well beyond this election season.

But there are Republicans and there is Republican Loy Mauch, elected to represent House District 26 near Hot Springs. A former head of the Sons of the Confederate Veterans post in Hot Springs, Mauch calls the Confederate flag "a symbol of Jesus Christ," and is a current member of The League of the South, a group which works toward the formation of an independent Southern nation.

Founded in 1994 in Killen, Ala., The League of the South advocates for "the secession and subsequent independence of the southern states from this forced union and the formation of a southern republic," according to the "Introduction" page on its website. The site also encourages members to "personally secede from the corrupt and corrupting influence of post-Christian culture in America" by home-schooling children and creating "parallel institutions to which people can attach their loyalties."

The Southern Poverty Law Center calls the group a "neo-Confederate" organization, adding that League rhetoric often bears racist overtones. "The League believes the 'godly' nation it wants to form should be run by an 'Anglo-Centric' (read: white) elite that would establish a Christian theocratic state and politically dominate blacks and other minorities," an SPL report said.



http://www.arktimes.com/arkansas/the-south-shall-rise-again/Content?oid=1380685

[TlalocW]

1. You know what? At this point, I'm fine with the south seceding

Let's have a 1 to 2 year period (with extended grace periods) for people who don't want to be part of the seccesionist movement to move to the north (and anyone who wants to be part of it move to the south), and then the states that want to can secede, and we'll see how well these former welfare queen states fare without the blue states sending them tax money. Within one year, they'll be a third world country.

TlalocW

[sufrommich]

3. For all the braying the faux secessionist do, they will never

put their money where their mouth is.

[Iris]

17. why would they? Aren't red states the ones who get the most gov't money?

I think I read that somewhere. BTW, I live in the South and totally got Brett Butler's quote, "The South: When beautiful places happen to bad people."

[SouthernLiberal]

5. I'd have to find someplace warm.....

and since a new southern secession would deprive me of either my citizenship in the US or my home and job, without my consent, I would insist on being made financially whole.

On the other hand, except for our politics, I like living in South Carolina.

I agree with you that the south could not survive without the rest of the states. Would the US's trading partners trade with the new country? Would not the USA insist on compensation (at least!) for it's military bases?

[csziggy]

18. Same here _ while I do not agree with a lot of Florida politics

I was born and raised here, have a nice piece of property I plan to live the rest of my life and maybe be buried on, and refuse to secede either my state or my land it to ignorant fools.

The fight for Southern succession was fought and lost. If these idiots want to try again, they will find that most of the people in the South will not support that cause again. If they do not like it here, why don't they return to the places their ancestors came from - after all, isn't that what they keep telling everyone else to do?

[blondeatlast]

7. I will not cede the incredible serenity of the Sonoran Desert to hateful, hypocritical, blaspheming

racist slug slime.

My state is the latter day Bull Connor Alabama--but I choose to stay and fight (although it's becoming increasingly difficult to do so).

[Celeborn Skywalker]

10. You understand

a lot of the reason why the South is a "welfare state" is because of its high percentage of African-Americans that live in abject poverty, right? And those very people tend to vote heavily democratic and are on our side.

[w8liftinglady]

11. well...to be honest,my and my partner's counties are about 80% + caucasian

...about 50% uninsured,and a mean annual salary of 31K...and a church on every corner.

Why they are so non-union and republican is beyond me...except they've been led to believe that anything else in "Un-American".

[Celeborn Skywalker]

15. Yes, there are many poor whites also.

I just think we as Democrats shouldn't be criticizing states for the amount of assistance they receive.

[w8liftinglady]

16. i agree-which is why it is SO important we work to get out the vote...

[kctim]

13. Shhhhhhh!

[Kalyke]

14. You know what? Your sympathy toward the nearly half of

us in the South who are NOT conservatives, bigots or Republicans needs improvement.

Some of us live here for family, some for work and others because it's home and it's pretty.

Why would you put the thousands of us clear-thinking Southerners on a path of sure death - not to mention breaking the country in two - just to make your little point?

[GrpCaptMandrake]

23. You went to the same place I did

Well said!

:toast:

[GrpCaptMandrake]

20. Why would you compel . . .

a southern liberal to leave a place where they're so badly needed?

Please trust me on this: few (if any) southern liberals are interested in relocating to New Jersey or Indiana, or anywhere else. They want to reform the states where their hearts and souls are. I submit that we NEED them to do that.

What southern liberals need is OUR support, not our advice that they leave the field of contest.

I get this question quite often on the show: "Bob, why don't you leave Appalachia and move to _______________________?" Two easy answers: (a) I have a home here in an area that's been home to nine generations, and (b) I refuse to go anywhere it gets any colder than it already gets here. I suppose it's pig-headed of me, but I refuse to go somewhere that has two seasons: Dead of Winter and Fourth of July.

You have NO idea how I wish Canada was south of us and not north!

[dflprincess]

2. I'm sure it will come as a surprise to Jesus when he hears about it

and I have a feeling he won't be happy about it.

[chaplainM]

8. Maybe not

Jesus shared with the Confederacy an unwillingness to end slavery.

[T Wolf]

4. Whether by the confederate states seceeding or some other form of dissolution, the US is

simply too large, too vast, to diverse, and filled with too many fucking idiots to survive as one nation.

Add in the fucked-up way government is stacked against the working/middle classes and the over-representation that vacant land in the red states has in Congress and there is no way that this empire can continue, even along its current, corrupt and destructive path.

There is certainly no chance of achieving the dream of a free democracy in the country as it is now constituted.

Splitting up would solve so many problems and cause virtually none. That is why it will not happen - at least, not until enough people wake up to the need for radical change. Attempting to "reform" this mess is futile - it must be destroyed and rebuilt from the ground up.

[DCKit]

6. When Jesus finished writing The Constitution, he took up needlework.

The Dude likes to keep busy.

Currently, he's organizing the Tea Party and working to keep 'murka safe from that evil Socialism.

[TexasObserver]

9. Well, it IS a symbol of a BURNING CROSS, so that's sort of right.

[w8liftinglady]

12. and it's no mystery where the majority of their believers live...unfortunately,Texas is one of them

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map

[Warren DeMontague]

19. Man, are they in for a surprise.

[gkhouston]

21. Why yes, I did. Every time I see it, I say, "Jesus Christ, what a moron." n/t

[GrpCaptMandrake]

22. Truth! n/t