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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:50 PM
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When does it stop with these ridiculous TSA security measures?
As if the stuff they were doing ALREADY wasn't bad enough, now they're doing invasive groping for people who opt out of going through the full-body x-ray? You get to choose which way you and your loved ones are ashamed and violated! Hooray!

Even the kids can get involved! :puke: Enough is enough. I'm glad to see a lot of people angry over this...because this shit needs to end. If we just meekly accept it like sheep, it'll only escalate. What happens when somebody inevitably tries to hide a bomb in their...body cavity? You can bet the TSA will be breaking out the white gloves and telling you to bend over. We need to speak up NOW, fight this NOW, and not lie down and accept increasingly ridiculous violations of our bodies.

I for one REFUSE TO FLY until this shit is ended. I hope those of you who are able will join me in this. Enough of this authoritarian bullshit. This is supposed to be America, land of the free, home of the brave. The more we do shit like this, the more we give in to the terrorists.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:53 PM
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1. We'll take a train.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:02 PM
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7. You're in luck!
TSA chief John Pistole to put priority on rail, subways



"Here's lookin' at you, kid!"

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-07-16-tsa16_ST_N.htm

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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:33 PM
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23. Oh shit.
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GiordanoBruno Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:21 PM
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20. To Hawaii?
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:54 PM
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2. I'm still waiting for someone to seriously suggest simply shackling all passengers
After that idiotic rule about passengers not being allowed to have anything in their hands they tried for awhile last year - one of my friends got snapped at for looking at the in-flight magazine over that - there isn't exactly anything that would surprise me.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:56 PM
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3. If we roll over on this, what's next?
It will be a good indication on how people will receive Social Security cuts, Medicare cuts, insurance mandates without protections, a draft. A little bit of backlash and fuss, but no real resistance?

I really hope not. I hope there's *a lot* of resistance. I'm thoroughly disgusted. I'm upset at the very idea that this is 'no big deal'.

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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:02 PM
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8. It IS a big deal, it errodes our freedoms slowly but surely.
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ishaneferguson Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:59 PM
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4. When They Throw In A Colonoscopy NT

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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:01 PM
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5. The terrorists won the moment we started dropping bombs on Afghanistan
Edited on Tue Nov-16-10 07:08 PM by Cali_Democrat
This is just icing on the cake for them.

Bin Laden got everything he wanted and then some. America is bankrupt, our soldiers continue to die, the world hates us and now America is conducting virtual strip searches of its citizens.

Bin Laden is smiling like a cheshire cat.

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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:03 PM
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9. It doesn't matter how many of them we kill, we'll never win with blood and iron.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:05 PM
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11. Indeed. n/t
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:02 PM
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6. Flying was ruined for me after the OTT response to 911.
It's only gotten worse over time. I guess in a way this takes the cake....my wife and I just feel fortunate that our jobs don't cause us to fly very often....and with dogs, when we visit family, we drive.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:07 PM
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16. The degradation of liberty and privacy started years before 911. I'd put it in the summer of 1987.
I remember the first time somebody told me I couldn't carry a folding Buck knife on a plane. It happened in Birmingham, Alabama. I was in the middle of a trip all over the place. I had always carried a big knife before that moment, and have never been permitted to since then.

I was allowed to carry a Swiss Army knife until 9/11.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:05 PM
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10. As soon as enough people stop flying because of the measures corporate pressure will fix the problem
I refuse to fly as well.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:07 PM
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14. The only thing they care about is their profit margin, and the airlines are doing badly as it is...
once the revenue starts to fall, you can bet those shiny new machines will be in the landfill.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:08 PM
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17. Egg-zactly
The corps will go along with anything the .gov wants until it starts cutting into their action.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:06 PM
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12. It stops when a significant number of us refuse to purchase airline tickets.
Seriously, if this started to hit the airlines in the pocketbook, considering the corporations pretty much OWN our country, you'd see TSA backing away from these overly invasive procedures.

However, as long as the bottom line is not affected greatly, they will keep foisting these ridiculous policies down our throat because everyone will have concluded that we've been conditioned to accept this sort of treatment as part of "post-9/11 Murika."

I absolutely refuse to fly under these circumstances.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:18 PM
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19. 9/11 ruined us.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:06 PM
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13. I won't fly unless there's a serious illness or death in the family. This is too much. Rec'd n/t
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:07 PM
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15. Your public servants at TSA will not rest until there is total security:
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:11 PM
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18. Well,
this seems like an excellent way to avoid making Peak Oil a prominent issue. Perhaps less flying is what is on the agenda?

Hell, the deadbeat rich have their own planes so we only really need airports for them and those can be maintained by the burgeoning, insourced corporate prison industry. That's almost free labor there. Well, the remaining tax payers will subsidize that largely.

All we need is more and more Draconian laws with entrapment frosting on them in order to transfer the unemployed into Military-Industrial Serfdom. In a game with rules like that, (try to keep out of prison) the USA can be still be an Empire of sorts.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:23 PM
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21. When we are all required to board naked after thorough cavity
searches.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:24 PM
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22. And they taze a few people for good measure, all in the name of 'safety'
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:37 PM
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24. It stops when Americans say it does
I do hope they do the right thing. These things tend to MIGRATE across borders.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:49 PM
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25. I hope so, too. I really do.
Otherwise, I'm not sure how much of a future this country has left..
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 08:24 PM
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26. have to agree with you on that.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 09:06 PM
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27. I've been worried about this country...ever since Bush 2 was installed.
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