Okay - are YOU willing to fly even if it means being groped by TSA?

[peacebird]

Poll question: Okay - are YOU willing to fly even if it means being groped by TSA?

I will not. The Don't Touch My Junk guy, and Chatterbox mom, combined with the video of the crying little girl (maybe 3 years old) screaming "don't touch, don't touch!" are just too much for me. The story of the pilot who was groped by TSA and then threw up floored me.

[Danger Mouse]

1. Ab-so-fucking-lutely not.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Next time I will go through the hassle, and it is a hassle,

Of flying to visit parents through Tijuana. I will avoid US airports as much as possible...I don't care for theater.

[Texasgal]

3. It's not a choice for some..

My job has me traveling for training quite a bit. I haven't flown for pleasure in a very long time.

[Catherina]

4. I had to vote B because I can't swim across the entire Gulf

but it will have to be an extreme emergency.

[peacebird]

5. so over 80% of us will either not fly OR not fly unless it is an emergencey..

I wonder how many used to fly for vacations and fun? I know we did. Those days are long gone now.

[ZombieHorde]

6. I will still fly, but I understand why many won't. nt

[TexasObserver]

7. If I need badly to fly, I will.

But I'll have to need badly to fly.

[peacebird]

10. My fear is, IF i get singled out for the advanced grope it will trigger memories of rape

and i will react badly.... My beloved hubby knows cannot hold me down even just "playfully wrestling" because it causes such a visceral reaction even so many years later.

[redirish28]

27. My wife is the same way.

[TexasObserver]

28. If TSA had any sense, they'd know that.

All this because of the alleged underwear bomber. We give up our liberties to "protect" against extremely remote risks.

[uncommon]

34. ...

:hug:

[Skittles]

8. I fly every month

never have problems

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

9. I will still fly... in this....

[DCKit]

11. If the TSA folks looked like this:

or this:

It might convince me to fly more often.

[Barack_America]

12. I've never been a fan. And now I have to pay an arm and leg to be molested?

No thank you.

It'll be trains and automobiles for my family until this country gets their shit figured out regarding "terra!".

[CTyankee]

13. I will fly if I can afford it. Frankly, I haven't had the experience everyone is talking about.

I flew AlItalia to Italy this past September and to Berkley CA in October on Jet Blue. No body scans/gropes...

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. This is very new procedure

As in after you took that trip

[CTyankee]

30. I'm not in a wheelchair but I wonder what they do with people who are.

Especially those hooked up with oxygen machines. That's gotta be tough...

[dixiegrrrrl]

14. I refuse to support fascist behavior. Period.

So, no flying. In 2005 I drove across country rather than fly.
Hope this feeling spreads widely, and the airlines are forced to see the impact.

[Earth_First]

15. I will still fly, but I'm not keeping my mouth shut if I feel uncomfortable either... n/t

[On the Road]

First, the Security Procedures Since Sep 11

have been misguided, intrusive, offensive, and over the top.

Second, anyone changing their life to the point of not flying flying on commercial aircraft any longer is being histrionic.

One the other hand, a decline in ridership might be best way to elicit a change. Once the airlines start feeling the pain financially, they can start exerting political pressure.

[On the Road]

16. First, the Security Procedures Since Sep 11

have been misguided, intrusive, offensive, and over the top.

Second, anyone changing their life to the point of not flying flying on commercial aircraft any longer is being histrionic.

One the other hand, a decline in ridership might be best way to elicit a change. Once the airlines start feeling the pain financially, they can start exerting political pressure.

[uppityperson]

26. Thanks for the voice of reason. I agree. eom

[uncommon]

36. If one doesn't need to fly, why submit to being treated like a criminal?

I don't think it's histrionic - I think it's vital that everyday Americans who are just trying to live their lives stand up for their personal liberty.

[Le Taz Hot]

41. I don't find

a) being groped by a stranger and/or

b) unauthorized persons viewing my naked body

are histrionics. Like the poster above, I was also a victim of rape and I can't begin to tell you what kind of PTSD episode an experience like that can bring on. A little more compassion, please. If you can't have empathy and/or compassion perhaps you can resist mislabeling so as to minimize people's concerns.

[KittyLover]

17. I'll fly.

But it will only be in extreme circumstances. Like if a family member is distressed in Ohio. I can't drive from the cheese state, so I have limited options.

[redirish28]

18. My wife is really upset by the process. She walked into the airport

one Holiday season and watched as her mom and others went through the screening process Her mom wanted her to wait just incase she could take a disney lamp (for the grandkid) on the plane. My wife was dumbfounded.


Too her as her watched from the outside the scene of people taking off shoes and get pat down and bags checked it reminded her of the scene from the Handmaids tale when the women where rounded up before going to the"reeducation."

She can't believe people allowed themselves to be put through all that.


She can understand the metal detector or that metal wand. but in her mind that should be all that needs to be done.

[CLANG]

19. I used to love going to IBM clases in Dallas, NY/NJ, LA, Boston, STL, CHI

Now it is a curse. I'm actually taking an online IBM course from my home this week. It serves the purpose and I don't have to get radiated, probed, or molested.

[csziggy]

20. I'm an easy NO since I haven't flown in twenty years

I used to love flying, but our last trip was a nightmare of logistics, overcrowded flights, overworked and rude attendants, and other problems. And that was before they minimized seating space, increased security and turned airline passengers into guilty terrorists until found innocent by TSA.

So my future planning for trips will involve trains, ships, and automobiles but no planes. That means if I want to take a trip to Europe or Great Britain, I will have to plan on months rather than weeks and take a ship across. Which would actually be healthier, considering my family history of deep vein thrombosis!

[Caretha]

21. Only if its my

last flight out of this country.

[bigwillq]

22. I don't fly

I don't want to put myself through the hassle, so I don't. Solves that problem.
If I didn't have to drive I wouldn't do that, either. But I drive a lot for work and really have to use my car, so other modes of transportation are not an option.

[lightningandsnow]

23. I live in Canada, but if I go to the US, I'll find other ways to get there.

If my family really wants to go to the south or western parts of the US, I might just go along with it. Otherwise, most of my American friends are from areas within a reasonable bus/train distance from where I live. Greyhound/Via Rail/Amtrak it is!

[bluedigger]

25. I will fly if there is no alternative.

I've only flown twice in the last decade. Once was a work assignment, and once was to attend the funeral of a dear friend. Work and/or emergencies would be the only reasons to fly commercial in the future - it's a miserable experience, anyways - getting groped might actually be the high point, for me.:rofl:

[U4ikLefty]

29. Hell, that's a reason for me to fly!!!

I'm a lonely boy.

[Scruffy1]

31. i think we should just get naked.

[uncommon]

32. Not unless it is an absolute necessity and I don't see that happening.

I won't be treated like a criminal for trying to travel. I'll drive thanks.

[Bill McBlueState]

33. yes

I'll be out of a job pretty fast if I refuse to fly. That doesn't mean I approve of what they're doing.

Honestly, I'm a little tired of people boldly declaring never to fly again when they fly at most every few years for pleasure.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

35. it is not a choice if I want to keep my job

so 'willing' isn't the issue...

i cannot wait til they start pulling this shit every time you cross a state border...there's nothing to stop them...they can apparently get away with whatever shit they want to do...all they need is another excuse...

Fuck the TSA!

sP

[slackmaster]

39. I've had a few jobs like that. Not so with my present one. The farthest I have to go is Arizona.

I can drive there just fine, and stock up on cases of handgun ammo on the way.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

44. ammo is too expensive to stock up on right now

fortunately, I have a stockpile that would make some armories envious ;-)

sP

[slackmaster]

46. It's going to get worse in February, when a new California law goes into effect

Ammunition sellers won't be allowed to sell more than 50 rounds of handgun ammunition at a time to anyone, and anyone who buys handgun ammunition will have to submit a thumbprint.

Insanely stupid, but that's our legislature, and Arnold signed the thing.

[ThatsMyBarack]

37. Other....

I bought a ticket to Vegas for April 2011--BEFORE the TSA perversion.

I only hope TSA gets the message and learns to keep its hands to itself before I get on THAT plane.

If they mess with me on that day in April....forget it. I'm turning around and going home.

[slackmaster]

38. Fuck that shit. I like where I am just fine. The last time I flew was for an extreme family issue.

My cousin died, and I flew up to the Bay Area for his funeral.

I had a vivid dream last night, and he was in it. We talked about a lot of things. He had a wonderful bluntness. If he thought something was bullshit, he wouldn't make any attempt to sugar-coat his opinion.

[Le Taz Hot]

40. Nope.

I didn't see the 3-year-old girl but I saw a little boy, maybe 6, being GROPED by some TSA agent. I swear to goddess if I had kids and some TSA agent groped my child's crotch like that, that TSA agent would have been minus an appendage. I seriously would have lost my mind.

[GoneOffShore]

42. I am not a zek being transported to the gulag,

I'm an American traveling in my own country.

[rucky]

43. Whatever it takes to prevent a potential Crotch Bomber.

:patriot:

[slackmaster]

47. They have ass bombers now

Body cavity searches are coming soon.

[EnviroBat]

45. This weekend will be my last trip on a plane.

My girlfriend has had tickets for quite some time now. we will use them. After that I will be personally boycotting all airlines. They are treating us like fucking criminals. I will never be subject to their bullshit again. I hope that we as a nation can all ban together and crush them financially. Until they treat passengers with dignity, I don't think anyone should fly.