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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:36 PM
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Police: USF biologist dies in an apparent suicide by cyanide
Source: St. Petersburg Times

TEMPLE TERRACE — A University of South Florida molecular biologist died Monday night in an apparent suicide by cyanide at a Temple Terrace hotel, police say.

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Police say that at about 8 p.m. Monday, emergency personnel were called to the Extended StayAmerica hotel at 12242 Morris Bridge Road after someone reported that a woman was having a heart attack.
When they arrived, they found Chauhan in apparent distress. They tried to resuscitate her and took her to the hospital, police said.

Her cause of death is still under investigation, but witnesses at the hotel say that Chauhan had mentioned that she had cyanide. A suicide note was found at the scene.

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Potassium cyanide is commonly used by universities in chemistry classes and for research, but it was not used in the research projects Chauhan was working on, USF said in its statement.
Chauhan investigated treatments for tropical diseases, including malaria, viral encephalopathies and filariasis, which is caused by parasitic worms, USF said.


Read more: http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article1134582.ece



Another bright, young, enthusiastic, well-liked scientist is gone, under very strange circumstances.


I hope a thorough investigation ensues, and that the truth will emerge. And thoroughly check out those 'witnesses'.


RIP, Chitra Chauhan.






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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:44 PM
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1. I'm surprised he did not shoot himself in the back
of the head, twice. Cyanide? sounds fishy to me.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:57 PM
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2. Why the tinfoil vibe?
I read the article and I'm not seeing any reason for it.
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sally cat Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:03 PM
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4. She said she had cyanide yet died of a heart attack. Coincidence?
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:13 PM
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9. Heart attack?
I don't think she died of a heart attack. Somebody called 911 saying she had a heart attack but that somebody obviously just assumed she had a heart attack because she was in distress.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:32 PM
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15. The term "heart attack" is flung about willy nilly by nonmedical persons.
That doesn't mean she died of an actual myocardial infarction, lol. A postmortem exam by pathologists will determine the cause of death, not some panicked layperson calling 911.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 10:54 PM
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28. The ultimate cause of death in cyanide poisoning is cardiac arrest
The cyanide prevents cells from using oxygen, thus leading to seizure, cardiac arrest, etc.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:05 PM
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5. Me neither. To me it sounds like she checked out using a method she knew to be fast and sure
You never know what makes a person decide life's not worth it anymore. From the outside, someone can appear to have it made: intelligent, well-liked, employed...and still may have caught bone-chilling despair to the degree that the only escape seems to be death.

Tucker
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:16 PM
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10. She was working as a postdoctoral researcher.
Edited on Tue Nov-16-10 06:18 PM by LisaL
That's hardly having it made. Those are considered temporary positions and are usually not very well paid. Add to this, postdoctoral researcher is usually expected to find a permanent position after the postdoctoral position, such as a faculty position, and it's not easy to do. Could be a very stressful situation for someone.


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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:21 PM
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11. "Stressful" is an understatement

I've known people who've spent most of their lives on the academic treadmill, living post-doc to post-doc and keeping a stiff upper lip about approaching middle age without a decent paying job or future.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:28 PM
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13. Yep. I don't know what were this girl's reasons, and maybe they had
Edited on Tue Nov-16-10 06:36 PM by LisaL
nothing to do with career, but I don't find it hard to believe that career related stress like this can push someone over the age.
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dogknob Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:13 PM
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8. If memory serves...
...the twice-in-back-of-head suicide is a reference to Gary Webb. As for tinfoil-sounding statements, more and more recently, we see instances of tinfoil being not-tinfoil
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 09:07 PM
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:12 AM
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35. That list has some victims of murder, some of suicide, and
some from natural causes. I am pretty sure similar lists can be composed of people in other professions.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:58 PM
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3. Why would someone want biologists,
molecular biologists and other related professionals, gone?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:12 PM
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7. No idea. Are their deaths statistically anomolous or in normal range?
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sally cat Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:26 PM
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12. Probably not.
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:00 AM
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39. Link to David Kelly wiki:
There were a string of scientists whose deaths occurred under unusual circumstances. David Kelly was the most public.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_David_Kelly
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:11 PM
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6. Reminds me of the fact a Cuban "exile" assassin, Eduardo Arocena,
at his murder trial in NYC, after he went there to assassinate the Cuban diplomat to the U.N., Felix Rodriguez Garcia, testified that he had been employed by the C.I.A. to carry biological warfare materials into Cuba to use against the population there.

It's in court records, it's permanent. People have known about it for a very long time.

Thank you, seafan. :hi:
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sally cat Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:29 PM
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14. You're on to something here. Does sound similar.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 08:45 PM
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23. Thanks for adding that, Judi Lynn.
I put away my tinfoil long ago.


:hi: back atcha.
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:33 PM
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16. Another one, eh? /nt
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:42 PM
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17. My first thought as well.
It is very bizarre.
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:45 PM
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18. We haven't heard about this in a while so I assumed they'd gotten rid of all the ones who knew
too much about whatever this is all about. It's really weird.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 11:44 PM
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33. Not everything is this big giant conspiracy.
I don't see anything suspicious here at all. The OP article says she called her husband and told him she took the cyanide. It also says she left a note. Seems like a clear cut suicide.
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 12:11 AM
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34. What an inappropriately aggressive attitude to take with me. Have you followed the long string of
bizarre microbiologists' deaths? See seafan's link downthread.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:14 AM
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36. I saw that link. What exactly is bizarre about most of these deaths?
Edited on Wed Nov-17-10 02:22 AM by LisaL
Apparently, some were killed, some committed suicide, some died from natural causes. I am pretty sure people who aren't scientists have been known to die due to the same reasons. For instance, 81 year old gentleman's cause of death listed as respiratory distress and other natural causes. Is that suspicious considering he was 81 years old?
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:51 PM
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19. It was inevitable: the scent of bitter almonds always reminded him of the fate of unrequited love.
- Gabriel García Márquez, Love in the Time of Cholera
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:10 PM
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20. There was a spate of mysterious deaths within the biomedical community during BushCo's regime
Here's just a few that immediately come to mind:

11/6/2001 - Jeffrey Paris Wall, 41, biomedical expert ("suicide")

11/16/2001 - Donald C. Wiley, 57, one of the foremost microbiologists in the United States ("suicide")

3/25/2002 - Steven Mostow, 63, expert in bioterrorism (plane crash)

11/12/2002 - Benito Que, 52, expert in infectious diseases and cellular biology ("natural causes")

7/18/2003 - Dr. David Kelly, 59, biological warfare weapons specialist ("suicide")
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:43 PM
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21. what was the unifying factor here, biological warfare of some sort?
I'm trying to figure this whole thing out. If it was biological warfare, why didn't these scientists speak out? Are you saying that they were "suicide-ded" before we knew who they were? We DID know what they had revealed, didn't we? So the cat was out of the bag already, so to speak...
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 08:11 PM
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22. Wasn't it possibly related to anthrax?
It was so long ago it has dropped from the radar. I seem to recall a number of oddly suspicious "suicides" of microbiologists.



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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 08:57 PM
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bluedigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 09:22 PM
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26. Cyanide seems kind of mundane for a molecular biologist.
Effective enough, I suppose, but I would expect something more inventive.:shrug:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 10:18 PM
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27. Was she studying Anthrax virus? n/t
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 10:56 PM
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29. And if she was? nt
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 11:36 PM
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30. No. She was studying tropical diseases according to the OP article.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 11:40 PM
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31. Thanks. I missed that. n/t
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 11:43 PM
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32. That's okay.....half the people in this thread missed it was a woman
I'm always amazed that people post first and read later.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:18 AM
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37. K&R
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 05:55 AM
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38. A co-worker commited suicide recently when he lost his funding.
Funding for research is tough to come by these days. It's created a tremendous amount of pressure on young scientists. I think, in many instances, these are people not prepared to face the prospect of unemployment. Not all that long ago, the only question a young scientist really had to worry about was whether they'd pursue a career in academia, biotech or government. Facing such an uncertain future is troubling.

Regarding the potassium cyanide, it's extremely common. Not the sort of thing you'd find in individual research labs, but almost guaranteed to be in the common chemical supplies of virtually every biology department in the country. There's nothing particularly mysterious about it being used.

It's sad.
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