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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 01:55 AM
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Miller refuses to give up in Alaska, now blames computerized voting
Source: Anchorage Daily News

Sen. Lisa Murkowski enjoys an apparently insurmountable 10,420-vote lead over Joe Miller after the week-long review of write-in ballots. But the Miller campaign isn't giving up and says Alaska's computerized voting system is "suspect." The Miller campaign wants the Division of Elections to now do a recount by hand.

Even subtracting all the votes counted for Murkowski but challenged by the Miller campaign, Murkowski would still be ahead by 2,247 votes. That margin appears to make Miller's lawsuit asking the courts to toss out misspelled votes irrelevant. There aren't enough misspelled votes identified for Miller to win.

But Miller campaign spokesman Randy DeSoto said Tuesday night that the lawsuit is continuing and the campaign hopes a hand recount will pick up more Miller votes. There were over 255,000 votes cast in Alaska's Senate election.

... The Miller campaign has suggested in recent days there was possible voter fraud, but has not provided proof. The campaign is also complaining about the state's computerized voting system, and cites a lawsuit by the Alaska Democratic Party following the 2004 election. The count stood but a judge said the system at the time did not provide sufficient means of confirming the accuracy of the results.

Read more: http://www.adn.com/2010/11/16/1557873/murkowskis-lead-more-than-10000.html
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 01:57 AM
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1. Voting systems that can not be validated.
LOL

Idiots.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:04 AM
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2. POOR LOSER......POOR LOSER.....whad a dufus
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:06 AM
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6. No! Pay attention. He's turning on the MACHINES.
What a fine, fine fellow.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:54 PM
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18. Yep, I noticed
I'm surprised more Repukes didn't do this in 2008 after Obama was elected.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:04 AM
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3. Oh good for the voters who voted for Lisa.
Stephen Colbert showed some of the ballots that Miller was contesting. Miller said, "No clear indication that the voter wanted the woman 'Murkowski' " but voters had to indicate with a check mark and also by spelling out her name exactly - and the samples Colbert showed on screen showed that Miller really had nothing to complain about.

Murkowski ain't the easiest name in the world to spell, and those voters had it down.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:04 AM
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4. Is the tea party going to develop a hate for the machines I hate?
GO TEA PARTY!

What a perfectly exquisite unintended consequence.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:04 AM
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5. what is Palin's position on all of this ?
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LawnLover Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:32 AM
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8. Who gives a shit
She needs to go back to hole she crawled out of.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:31 AM
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7. beat it, ya teabagging loser
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:36 AM
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9. Oh, come now. How likely is it that the 'Lican establishment . . .
Would cook the electoral books in their favor? I mean, it's never happened before.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:43 AM
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10. I'm actually on Jo(k)e's side on this one.
The sooner we get rid of these type of machines (they are the Diebold machines California got rid of) the better. If it takes this idiot to help do it, then I guess I can say he wasn't a complete waste of oxygen.

Cheer him on.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:51 AM
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11. Which ones are they?
I remember in 2006 or 7, our mayor in San Francisco wanted us to buy machines that failed all over Cook County, Il.

We just pass these suckers around, don't we.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:07 AM
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12. Not sure which model. Will look it up.
I believe they destroyed around 30,000 of them.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:34 AM
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13. Omg. That's a lot of scrap.
We were so close to having our elections ruined just before the 2006 elections. Arnold's Republican appointee Sec of State was stuffing those machines down our throats. Having public hearings with no public. Not even bothering to show up himself half the time. It was even money if we could vote him out in 2006.

We got Debra Bowen into office just in time to save our necks. There are still problems here but at least the trend is going the other way -- for the moment, any way.





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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:58 PM
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19. Here is the info.
They are the Diebold Accuscan Premier GEMS Ver. 1.18.19.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:20 PM
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25. Exactly, Dave.
That's what I said below. Remember all the issues we had in 2004 and 2006? For all we know, Lisa didn't really beat Tony in that 2004 senate race.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 04:08 AM
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14. Write-ins must be validated by hand, correct?
In WA state, all ballota with write-ins are kicked out of the system for hand tally.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 05:38 AM
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15. I think you mean Palin won't give up
She will never get over the fact that Lisa Murkowski beat her candidate. After all she used the primary to settle a personal grudge against her.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 05:43 AM
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16. 255k? I keep forgetting how small that state is.
Hell, three Chicago suburbs will gibe you that many votes.
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tinymontgomery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:53 PM
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17. Who pays for this
the taxpayers or state.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:02 PM
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21. It's all on Joe's campaign funds
If he's lucky like Norm Coleman, some kind souls will donate to a legal fund after the campaign funds have dried up.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:00 PM
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20. Don't give up, Joe. You're the real winner.
And don't let ANYONE tell you different.

:evilgrin:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:04 PM
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22. Another anti-government Teabagger who's probably......
..... really pissed that he's not going to get his federal government healthcare and perks now.


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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:18 PM
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23. We have had serious issues with our elections
over the past decade, and while I don't want to see Joe Miller be our senator, he has a valid point. The machines we are using were outlawed in California. I don't understand, when we only have about 300,000 or fewer people voting every eleciton, why we can't have a hand count. The Diebold GEMS method of vote counting is seriously suspect.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:19 PM
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24. the teaparty and sarah palin have been rejected
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