At what point does Obama realize they are playing him for a sucker?

[KansasVoter]

Because most of us have figured it out already!

I understand his attempts earlier, but at some point it makes him look stupid!

[BzaDem]

1. He actually realized this back in Feb 09. The idea that Obama has acted in a "bipartisan" way is a

complete myth created by people in a closed information bubble.

Every single major bill passed with EXACTLY the number of Republican votes required, and not a single vote more. 60 for, 40 against. Every time. The only way he could be less bipartisan is if every single bill failed.

Sure, he wants to win over independents by making it clear he wants to be bipartisan. And this is a good thing. But that doesn't mean he doesn't know it won't work because they aren't willing.

[tularetom]

2. He doesn't realize that perception becomes reality

It doesn't matter if it's true or not, if you keep saying it long enough and enough people believe it, it may as well be true.

The republicans caught onto this little fact long ago and they have made it the central point of their strategery.

Dems think they can counter it with the truth but it doesn't work at least in the short term.

And given the tiny attention span of most Americans the short term is all that counts.

[polichick]

3. Maybe he's really into turning the other cheek...

But I don't think that works in American politics.

[lob1]

4. Bipartisanship is a one way street. Ironic.

[Romulox]

5. Occam's Razor suggests that the President is pursuing the policies that are important to him.

Though I understand the appeal of blaming some amorphous third party, the President is responsible for his own policy positions. I tend to think he heartily supports the major ones (increased funding for wars, mandated private insurance, bankster bailouts, "free trade" with South Korea, etc.)

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[JackRiddler]

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[RKP5637]

6. I think they keep setting him up. These R's don't want any solutions, they just

want him to fail at any cost to the country. The country does not matter to them. I think these next 2 years are going to be very trying on all of us. I would have told them to F off by now.

[bluestate10]

14. Obama has to stand and fight.

Even if he is defeated while fighting, that is more acceptable than what he is doing now. Obama must get rid of appeasers in the White House and assemble a group of sound bite savvy, knuckle dragging mouth breathers that will slit republican's throats and get the country back on track to the promising future that all of us envisioned when Obama took the oath of office on January 21, 2009. I supported Hilary Clinton during 2008 democratic primaries, but when she lost, I fully supported candidate Obama financially and vocally when taking on right wingers during lunch and dinner conversations. I am one person that is sickened by Obama's apparent preference to not fight while opponents are using any tactic that works to destroy President Obama, his political party and the country.

George Soros said it well and speaks for me and many more people. Soros said something along the lines of "I accept losing, but I can't accept losing without a fight".

[RKP5637]

17. I would like to see him drive a stake in the ground and say this is where we are

and this is what we're doing come hell or high water. Sadly to these republicans now wanting to compromise is taken as a sign of weakness IMO. The republicans of today are F'en assholes, there's no getting around that fact to me.

[piratefish08]

15. setting him up. right. he's just a pawn. powerless.

[Bobbieo]

8. You are the one who just begged Palin to run for Pres. in 2012. HMMM!

[KansasVoter]

9. Hell yes I did, because she is an idiot! And your childish HMMM means what???

[donheld]

21. That has gotten really really old.

[notesdev]

11. At what point do we?

Maybe it's not Obama who has been played for the sucker.

[Doctor_J]

12. I started a subthread the other day entitled "patsy or accomplice"?

Seems like many don't believe he's being played - more like he's part of the big corporatization.

[RKP5637]

18. You know, I go back and forth on that one. I want to think and believe the best, but

quite often I think he's part of the big corporatization. I know many that feel he knows precisely what he's doing.

[NoodleyAppendage]

13. Never. He's too concerned psychologically with pleasing the absent father figure. n/t

J

[Zanzobar]

16. *Shudder*

Every time I see your handle I get creeped out all over again.

[KansasVoter]

19. Do you even have a clue what it means? I doubt it.

[NoodleyAppendage]

22. LOL. n/t

J

[Hannah Bell]

20. please leave the amateur psychologizing alone. you have *no* idea why he does what he does.

that kind of crap is useless.

[NoodleyAppendage]

23. We are all products of our environment, traumas, and genetics.

Just the facts. I believe that Obama, himself, admitted to having problems secondary to his Dad basically abandon his family.

J

[Hannah Bell]

25. we are products of our environment, but you know nothing about obama except

what you read in the media, & what he or others tell you there is calculated, & omit a wealth of data.

[Poll_Blind]

24. (Adjusts tie) I'd like to give my answer in TWO parts, KansasVoter:

FIRST PART: President Obama is only being played for a sucker if he has the same goals that we do.

SECOND PART: If he doesn't, then we are actually the suckers.

I call it the "Single-Sucker Paradox". Either President Obama is being played for a sucker or we are being played for suckers. KansasVoter, I am here to tell you that there can be only one sucker.

Either he is the sucker or we are.

But neither do we wish sucker-hood on Obama or ourselves. But one of us has to be the sucker.

Have you noticed lately how frequently not just on DU, but how this question has crossed the lips in one way or another of most Progressive DU staples out there- Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, Noam Chomsky not to mention Michael Moore and on and on...all the way up to people like George Soros

All of them, us, asking, in one form or another your question.

Look into the eyes of this sucker, right here:

Don't you dare look away this time, damnit!

Who do you see? President Obama or us?

You rest my case, thank you and good night.

PB